James, (or Jay?),

My apologies for the name confusion. (I've even seen other mails of yours,
now that I think about it, where you've told people your name is not John!)

You're right about the COO reporting TO the CEO, but I am intrigued by the
CJO title. I think I may even suggest it, would suit a few people  I've
worked with extremely well.........

Anyway, thanks for the discussion.


                      "jt" <jt@ee.net>
                      Sent by:                        To:       
                      midrange-nontech-admin@m        cc:
                      idrange.com                     Subject:  RE: Corporate 

                      10/11/02 11:08 AM
                      Please respond to

| [mailto:midrange-nontech-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of
| Adam_Driver@kaz.com.au
| Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:53 PM

| Thanks John.

If You have me confused with John Carr or John Earl, then I'm honored.

I've used my initials throughout my career, I ferget I have a name...;-)
(Uhhhhh.........? Oh! yeah!!  James "Jay" Toran (whereby "jt")...;-)

| I'm still a bit confused, but it kinda' sounds like what we'd call a
| Operating Officer or something like that.

The Chief Operating Officer would (afaik) report TO the CEO.  I've worked
Retail most-a my career, and there's usually a GMM (General Manager,
Merchandising) or VP-Merchandising or someone who also reports to the CEO.

In companies where IT has a lot of clout, the CIO/CTO/CJO (Chief
Officer/Chief Technology Officer/Chief Janatorial Officer, or whatever
is used...;-) also reports to the CEO.

In some companies I've seen, other Heads of Departments might also report
directly to the CEO, if they want involved in more day-to-day stuff.

| All public companies here have a
| board of directors headed by a chairman (usually part time) and a
| CEO/Managing Director running reporting straight to the board. (Managing
| Director was more in use in the eighties, CEO seems to be more popular
| since the nineties).

Yeah.  I've noticed a lot of not-for-profits are headed by an "Executive
Director", but even many of them are switching to "CEO".

| Smaller companies, or sometimes divisions
| within large
| companies, would be headed by a general manager. (Probably similar to
| you'd call a president I guess).


| Anyway, it sounds like we just use different terminology for the same
| thing.
| Thanks for the response, I was just curious.

That's for SURE...!  Just different lingo and similar/different ways for
businesses to organize...  (And my pleasure...! FWIW.)

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