Re: How many IBM i commands are obsolete?

I agree completely. Thank you for seeing the obvious.

Rich Loeber
Kisco Systems LLC

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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 9:08:30 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Rob Berendt <robertowenberendt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How many IBM i commands are obsolete?

Back in the day when IBM was enhancing CL significantly at each release
(mostly 5.3 through about 7.1,) there was a suggestion that IBM would
allow us to HIDE parameters that were no longer used on commands. They
wouldn't show up in prompting, even with F10 or F9 or in documentation.
If you used them any value would be allowed and flatly ignored.

Why would you use them though? Likely because at some point the
parameter was coded in a CL program when it was valid. Forcing users to
find those parameters and remove them so that their CL programs will
compile isn't very nice, so just allow the parameter to exist but ignore
it.

It is my guess that these IBM i commands exist often for the same
reason: These may be in scripts or programs and IBM doesn't want to
/force/ users to modify programs just so they'll compile. They may be in
sections of code that will never be used again, but sometimes going in
and hacking out those bits can introduce other issues.

So I'd be in favor of somehow hiding those commands from the average
user since many are in fact many releases away from having any potential
use whatever.

Or just tell admins to use Navigator for i and not worry about all those
'spare commands' which they will never see!

- DrF

On 10/17/2024 12:17 PM, Rob Berendt wrote:

What is the intention of your posts? Pester IBM into cleaning up "old

sh*t"?
Pretty much.
And, to avoid confusion on someone trying to use one of those commands.
Newbie to IBM i has to wade through a lot of obsolete crap to find the
truly valid options.

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 11:45 AM Patrik Schindler <poc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Rob,

Am 17.10.2024 um 16:44 schrieb Rob Berendt <robertowenberendt@xxxxxxxxx>:

On currently supported versions of the operating system, how many IBM i
commands are obsolete?

What is the intention of your posts? Pester IBM into cleaning up "old
sh*t"?

:wq! PoC



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