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Thanks Steve.  Great explanation

Regards,Laura
Laura A. UbelhorPresidentConsultech Services, Inc.www.consultechservicesinc.com
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On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 11:12:14 PM EDT, Stephen Landess <steve_landess@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Laura -

I have been working with JDE World Software since the 1980's.

1) The original security design for JDE World was for /everything/ to be owned by user profile JDE, and all JDE user profiles have JDE specified as the group profile.

2) As supplied by Orace/JDE, all programs were compiled to be owned by and adopt the authority of user profile JDE, and if you use the JDE tools like SVR (Software Versions Repository) on menu G92 to compile objects, JDE becomes the owner of any created objects.

3) Assuming that nobody has command line authority within JDE, then JDE action-code and menu-level security controls access to all of the applications within JDE - if the user cannot run the menu option then they cannot view or modify the data within the files.

In your client's case, applications other than JDE applications have been introduced which have ownership and object security outside these constraints, this is where they probably started giving users *ALLOBJ authority.

Regards,
Steve Landess
512-289-0387

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Thanks everyone for the replies.  Some great suggestions including looking at adopted authority within JDE and collecting information through the security audit tools.
Regards,Laura
Laura A. UbelhorPresidentConsultech Services, Inc.http://www.consultechservicesinc.com/
phone 248-701-7410

    On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 12:19:08 AM EDT, Roger Harman <roger.harman@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My first thought was...  Why do the *users* know, or think they know, that they need *ALLOBJ authority?

That's kind of getting into the weeds for end-users.

Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power




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A little dated, but then so is World. Synopsis of a COMMON session I did in Baltimore some twenty plus years ago.

http://brilligware.com/remirpces.html

JDEdwards World and object level security. I took a number of clients from SECLVL 20 to 40 using this.

Chris

On Sat, May 11, 2024, 12:58 PM ubelhor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <ubelhor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hello:
We are process of a task to get rid of *ALLOBJ authority for system
users.  Out of hundreds of profiles with *ALLOBJ we are down to 9
system  users that have *ALLOBJ.  They are in the finance group and
insist they  must have the *ALLOBJ authority.    We are tackling the
users 1 at a time  out of the 9 to see what they actually need for
authority and ultimately  get the *ALLOBJ removed from their profiles.
It was discovered that over  the years by default user profiles had
been copied and no one really  considered the impact of *ALLOBJ.
We don't necessarily want to put in a package.  Just want to deal with
sorting out safely what the 9 system users really need for authority.
  They are using JDE World (green screen) and also have a bunch of add
on  applications.  Do you have any recommendations on how to  most
efficiently  address the task?
ThanksRegards,Laura
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