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My general thought on this is the following: If they issue a later hiper
group it fixes an issue that was either drastic or a lot of people noticed
it. You can apply the later ptf group. If it introduces an error you can
remove the individual PTF from that group, or see if that too has been
fixed in the interim with a follow on ptf.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 9:28 AM Gerald Magnuson <gmagqcy.midrange@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

What if one of the fixes on 101 was to fix an error on 99 which caused
the
system to stop recognizing tcp on your particular card?
My question is what if one of the fixes on 101 Causes the system to have
problems, can I download group 99 instead?

it sounds like the answer is, groups are just collections of PTF's,
they give you the list of individual PTF's (and pre-req's, and co-req's) in
the group, knock your socks off and order those individual PTF's.




On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:31 AM Rob Berendt <robertowenberendt@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

This could get to be a mess with pre reqs and coreqs.
I suppose one could download the hiper cover letter on a frequent basis
and
farm the individual PTF's off of that. You'd have to store history of
the
cover letters.
But if your audit likes to see WRKPTFGRP changing, doing it this way, it
will not.
And if you open a case with IBM it will delay the case if WRKPTFGRP is
not
current and fails to reflect attempts to do it by individual ptf
updating.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 9:13 PM Bryan Dietz <bdietz400@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Maybe you could download the groups you are looking for and examine the
list of PTFs included. you should be able to *omit them from the PTF
install. I think the groups would still show the later group but you
would not have the PTF's loaded, seems fraught with danger though.

other than that you could look at the schedule for the groups and
download before the next one comes out.

i typically only do what you are trying for the Cumalative/TR.
i feel the groups are ok to have the latest.
Bryan

Gerald Magnuson wrote on 3/13/2023 10:03 AM:
My specific problem is those groups that update often (Hyper,
Security).
I don't want to download a group till it has been out there for a
while,
but if I
don't download it before the next update, I just get farther behind.
Is there a way I can pick a specified level?
example: I am currently on V7R4 group hiper 93, (current is level
101,
upd dt is 03/07/23).
Is there a method to get level 99?

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