RE: OVRPRTF WSCST(*PDF)

Most likely ESEND. That was a great product. Used it to split reports and email all the time.


Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power

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I used to have a client that received data from the telephone company, and processed that data into thousands of phone bills every month. They purchased a piece of software from RJS, later Help Systems, and now Fortra. That software read the spool files created during the billing runs, looked for the breaks in customer numbers, and created a pdf bill for each customer. Those pdf's were then emailed to the customer rather than printing a couple hundred thousand pages of paper every month. I The name of that original RJS product escapes me now, and the Fortra web site ain't that great, but perhaps Mr. RJS can weigh in here. 😊

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I used to have to create PDF's *and* keep the spool file for a couple of processes. I used the data queue option on the outq description and had a monitor program that would grab the spool file, do the conversion, email it, etc.

The outq was not attached to a writer and you have to be sure the spool file is *not* held but in a *RDY status so the info entry gets placed on the data queue.

Not sure if it's applicable to your situation. Worked great for mine.


Roger Harman
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Rob,

You may have a good idea there.

Previously, someone in Accounting would assign the spooled files to IFSPDF which generated the PDFs in the appropriate folder. A script sweeps the folder and sends all PDF files to our mail service (the folder also contains each day's invoices that weren't able to be emailed).

I may need to just stick these in a different IFS directory (or a subdirectory) and ask Accounting to drag and drop when ready to send.

I just don't understand why IBM wouldn't permit the spooled file to be held - but If I remember correctly, it may not get created when using this method.

I'll review a bit further... I may try to put the OVRPRTF in a conditional statement (if I can determine the correct condition).

Thx,
Greg

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Thanks for the explanation.

How did your previous automation system work? Did the user manually change the spool files to your IFSPDF writer which then emailed them?
How does your new system work? Does it sense a pdf file in the directory and automatically send it?
How can you merge these concepts? Can you generate the pdf file into one directory and then, when your ready, move them into the trigger directory?

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Rob,

But if I override it to go to printer P2 AND override it to HOLD(*YES), I would expect it to remain HELD until the user did something with it.

Yes, we have a good reason for wanting to control when a PDF is created and when it is not. At the end of the month when we run ALL customer statements, they want to create a PDF for the mailing company we use. The upload to them is automated and there are 55 separate PDF files (so we don't want to do it with ACS).

Other times, we just want to run a statement.

Thx,
Greg


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Greg,
Think of it this way.
Let's say your printout used to go to printer P1. Then you would move it to printer P2.
Then you changed it and added OVRPRTF to send it to P2. Would you ask why it doesn't remain on P1? No.

However, in an effort to understand what you are asking, I am guessing that there is some reason they want it on a printer. Is there? Do they want a hard copy in addition to the pdf? Or are they just in the habit of looking at spool files instead of the pdf file?

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For the past hundred years, we've had a CL program that created a PDF when a user printed a customer statement. We used a writer configured to do this and populated USRDFNDTA(MAILTAG(/directory/statement.pdf)).

The "old" method has been a PITA over the years because of the print writer. So I've been slowly moving everything to use OVRPRTF instead.

My problem is that previously, the spooled file would remain until the user assigned it to a printer (either a real printer or my IFSPDF writer).
Since I'm now using OVRPRTF, it creates the PDF immediately. I tried using HOLD(*YES), but It seems OVRPRTF WSCST(*PDF) doesn't honor HOLD(*YES)?

This is my current CL:
OVRPRTF FILE(STMT) DEVTYPE(*AFPDS) PAGESIZE(66 105) +
FRONTMGN(0 0) HOLD(*YES) TOSTMF(&STMF) WSCST(*PDF) Where &STMF = path & filename

Suggestions appreciated.
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