Re: IBM Discontinuing unencrypted fix downloads -- MIDRANGE-L

I'm guessing they simply don't want to do the digging and would rather feed us generalities.

Thing is, it confuses everyone and makes them look lazy.

I expect that two things are true with respect to SNDPTFORD, both of which they know but are not telling us.

A) Releases prior to a certain level will ONLY do UN-encrypted transmissions. So at that date they conk out.
B) For the releases that CAN do encrypted transfers, a minimum PTF level is required. If not at that level SNDPTFORD will also conk out.

Why they don't specify that appears to be just laziness.

- DrF

On 11/29/2022 5:04 PM, Michael Quigley wrote:

I thought it would communicate encrypted, but I wasn't sure. What stumps/concerns me is that SNDPTFORD is specifically listed among the applications/tools that could be impacted.

Michael Quigley
Computer Services
The Way international
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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-
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Subject: Re: IBM Discontinuing unencrypted fix downloads

I was of the impression that it uses https, so encyrpted. And I just
tested it and see https for the port number (443).

I have been hassling IBM as to what is actually changing for IBM i. They
discontinued ftp downloads (for ftps) some time ago. You and I cannot
change the way SNDPTFORD works, that's IBM's goo.

So far all they can tell me is "Efective Febrary 15, 2023 IBM will no
longer support unencrypted fix downloads." Yeah, I knew that. But what
is CHANGING? What TODAY can I do without encryption that I will no
longer be able to do on Feb 16?

They can't answer that. They just ask me to provide the method I
currently use and they will tell me if that works after the 15th.

I think the note was simply confusing, because from my chair they
already did all that and NOTHING will change for us on Feb 15.

DrF

On 11/28/2022 11:14 PM, Michael Quigley wrote:

In the IBM document 6837885

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states effective February 15, 2023 IBM will no longer support unencrypted fix
downloads. Included in the list of "fix acquisition systems/tools" is the
SNDPTFORD command. Does anyone know if there's a way to have
SNDPTFORD use encryption?

Michael Quigley
Computer Services
The Way international

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