RE: QTEMP position in library list -- MIDRANGE-L

Agreed 110%.

QTEMP, although always (hopefully) at the top of lib list in the environments I was in, was ALWAYS qualified -or- explicitly overridden to.

Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Bruce Vining
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 2:20 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: QTEMP position in library list

Library qualified vs *LIBL is clearly a personal/company decision; but I
personally hate library qualifying in code (QTEMP being the one exception)
as it can make testing a nightmare in some situations. With QTEMP library
qualification intent is clear, any other library it's a potential pain
(depending on the testing environment provided by the company).

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 4:53 PM Vern Hamberg via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Peter

Depends on how one uses library lists - does a shop take advantage of the
flexibility of library lists. Qualifying objects? We pretty much live by,
don't ever qualify objects.

So it is a personal or local choice, which standard of behavior is used in
your shop, in the shop in the company down the street, across the country,
across the pond - whatever.

Does qualifying an object say to you, always, that it is in QTEMP? I mean,
we use CPYF to make a copy in QTEMP - have to qualify that, of course -
from then on, it's *LIBL.

No right answer, methinks - IBM do not seem to weigh heavily in one of the
other that I could see.

Regards
Vern

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Dow" <petercdow@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 3:14:20 PM
Subject: Re: QTEMP position in library list

Hi Vern,

Yes, I can see that with existing systems, no need to rock the boat.

But if all references to the work file are qualified to QTEMP, it
wouldn't matter that there was an empty copy in a permanent library.

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*Peter Dow* /
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On 7/13/2022 12:40 PM, Vern Hamberg via MIDRANGE-L wrote:

Hi Peter

(Long time replying - email provider kept telling me i had unwanted

content in the email - not true!!)

We have work files that sit empty in permanent libraries. A copy is made

into QTEMP to avoid contention when different users are using the same
application. Long-time practice on these systems, I think.

Cheers
Vern

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Dow"<petercdow@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"<

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Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 4:47:28 PM
Subject: Re: QTEMP position in library list

Now there's a thought. Why have QTEMP in the library list at all except
for testing? If you need a file or object in QTEMP for production,
qualify any reference to it.

On 7/1/2022 12:37 PM, Rob Berendt wrote:

Honestly I would think that for testing issues you can change that on

the fly in an interactive job, or use a test job description with an
alternative library list.

Rob Berendt

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