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Vern,

You're right. I was assuming the use of either the RESTRICTED list of
values or CHOICES parameter, where you can customize the list of possible
choices that your parameter can take, so F4 works here without a UIM help
panel.

Beers
Javier


El dom, 26 jun 2022 a las 17:29, Vern Hamberg via MIDRANGE-L (<
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>) escribió:


hi Javier

all IBM commands have help, in uim objects, and those are what f4 uses,
and that help can be redirect into xml or uim, although I think the latter
is just a skeleton, have to look at the api docs again, so we can get
original defaults with a program call, we don't have to use f4, unless for
a casual look

cheers
vern


-----Original Message-----

From: Javier <javiersanchezbarquero@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, 26 June 2022 5:46 PM CDT
Subject: Re: Command Defaults... Are they stored anywhere?

Vern,

Well, yes, we all agree that's the concern. But unfortunately it seems we
cannot help it. One way to "guess" what could be the original default is
with F4 as this gives you the list of options for that parameter. Upon
that, it's your guess which one could be it, and then you can always change
it again.

Javier.


Javier.

El dom, 26 jun 2022 a las 16:17, Vern Hamberg via MIDRANGE-L (<
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>) escribió:

Javier

The interesting part of Brad's question, for me, is, what are the
original defaults? The original defaults are not stored in the command
object. If the help text comes from a UIM panel group, you can get that,
unless the person who created the command, such as you or I might do,
unless that person also changes the help text. IBM does not change help
text when you change a default.

I'm interested in what the original defaults are, in order to know what
it used to be - for the commands from IBM that have been changed where I
work.

Cheers
Vern

On 6/26/2022 4:35 PM, Javier Sanchez wrote:
I am so surprised Brad, for me you are one of IBM i Gurus. Most of my
applications that I have written, have commands, as most need human
interaction to start and end them, because at the end, they are
stand-alone, NEP applications that someday need to be restarted. Ever
since I started writing user-defined commands, I have always known that
their defaults are stored in the definition of the command itself
(meaning
the object). Also, I have had to change my own defaults in some cases.
And when I have saved them and restored them to some other libraries or
even boxes, they go along with the changed default.

I have never wondered that as you are doing now, but my experience says
that this is not probably available through some SQL interfaces so far
as
you find now with say, IFS objects or even QSYS objects.

Maybe your concern can open IBM eyes to do that.

Javier.


El mié, 22 jun 2022 a las 15:36, Brad Stone (<bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>)
escribió:

Something I've been wondering for a long time.. are command defaults
stored
anywhere in a table... or are they actually part of the command
itself?

Even if it's just if a user uses CHGCMDDFT to change it and it's only
stored then, that may be useful.

If they are stored in the command object.. I suppose there's no way to
get
the defaults without processing the command with a CL... maybe dumping
the
object? Man, I haven't done that forever. :)

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