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It does seem to be pretty low-level since it's translated to 10 characters in journal entry data.

DMPOBJ does not appear to show it translated.


On 5/11/2022 12:04 PM, Bruce Vining wrote:
It was done to make working with dates easier for developers, not due to
compiler limitations.

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 2:48 PM Rob Berendt<rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think IBM did this weird low level change from 4 to 10 on DSPPFM, etc
because they really wanted to get date fields out and the older versions of
RPG couldn't handle the 4 byte date but could handle it as a character.

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I remember when data fields first came out, and a friend and I were
trying to figure out how much space data fields were actually taking
up. As you said, it's 4 bytes, but it's converted to a formatted 10
bytes at a pretty low level. For example, DSPPFM shows it as 10, just
like your DSPFFD shows. I would expect an RPG program reading the file
as a program-defined file would also have it as 10.

There might be some API that shows it as 4 bytes, or returns a date as 4
bytes, but I don't know of one off hand.

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On 5/9/2022 12:43 PM, Charles Wilt wrote:
CORE_VALUE FOR COLUMN PKCORV DECIMAL(9,2) NOT NULL DEFAULT 0 ,
SHIPPER_NUMBER FOR COLUMN PKSHP# CHAR(9) NOT NULL DEFAULT ' ' ,
receive_date for column rcvdate date,
counter_person_name for column ctrpsnname varchar(20)
allocate(20) not null default ' ')

DSPFFD shows
Data Field Buffer Buffer Field Column
Field Type Length Length Position Usage Heading
PKCORV PACKED 9 2 5 297 Both Core Value
PKSHP# CHAR 9 9 302 Both Packing
Slip
RCVDATE DATE 10 10 311 Both Receive
Date
CTRPSNNAME CHAR 20 22 321 Both Counter
Person Name

select column_name, ordinal_position, data_type, length, numeric_scale,
storage
from qsys2.syscolumns col

CORE_VALUE 35 DECIMAL 9 2 5
SHIPPER_NUMBER 36 CHAR 9 9
RECEIVE_DATE 37 DATE 4 4
COUNTER_PERSON_NAME 38 VARCHAR 20 22

I'm well aware that Db2 stores a date internally as 4-bytes but surfaces
it
outside the DB as 10-bytes.

I expected the ENTRY_DATA blob from DISPLAY_JOURNAL() to be the internal
4-byte format which could then be INTERPRET( as DATE). As pointed out in
the post by Darren, INTERPRET() is documented as expecting 4 bytes for a
date.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/i/7.4?topic=functions-interpret

I suspect I'll need to ask IBM ... but I thought I'd throw this out here
in
case somebody else has already asked. And to maybe help the next guy.

Charles


On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 1:19 PM Peter Dow<petercdow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Charles,

What are the field definitions for the file whose journal entries you
are looking at? At least the RECEIVE_DATE definition plus the fields
before and after it. What does DSPFFD show for their buffer positions?

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On 5/9/2022 9:53 AM, Charles Wilt wrote:
on a v7.4 box that's reasonably current on PTFs...

Using the QSYS2.DISPLAY_JOURNAL() UDTF to look at the journal entries
for a
specific table...

I expected this to work..
, interpret(substr(entry_data, 297, 5)as DECIMAL(9,2)) as CORE_VALUE
, interpret(substr(entry_data, 302, 9)as CHAR(9)) as SHIPPER_NUMBER
, interpret(substr(entry_data, 311, 4)as DATE) as RECEIVE_DATE
, interpret(substr(entry_data, 315, 22)as VARCHAR(20)) as
COUNTER_PERSON_NAME

However, I get a cast error... looking at the entry data from pos 311
on,
, substr(entry_data, 311) as hmm
I see
F0F0F0F160F0F160F0F100014040404040404040404040404040404040404040
So it seems the date data type is surfaced as a CHAR(10) in ENTRY_DATA
as
this works
, interpret(substr(entry_data, 297, 5)as DECIMAL(9,2)) as CORE_VALUE
, interpret(substr(entry_data, 302, 9)as CHAR(9)) as SHIPPER_NUMBER
, interpret(substr(entry_data, 311, 10)as char(10)) as RECEIVE_DATE
, interpret(substr(entry_data, 321, 22)as VARCHAR(20)) as
COUNTER_PERSON_NAME

Am I missing something?

Thanks!
Charles
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