Re: Recovery in an unmanned location

I was assuming that there was a local machine that hosted the LAN Console
as well. LAN Console over the internet would also be a No No. It's not hard
to configure a VPN server in a VM or Anydesk or Teamviewer, anything to
avoid having the ports directly exposed.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:54 PM <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

ASMI over the internet? Really? You are correct that you could deal with
it that way, but why not just put a neon sign over the system that says,
hack me.......

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With ASMI access you can handle the power on and off. LAN Console, as
bothersome as it is, can handle the console aspects. But nothing will
replace a tape library where you can re-insert the tape, that, I would
think, is the showstopper...

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:00 AM Jim Oberholtzer
<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

All true Rob.

Additionally, How will you power it on? A single partition machine
will drop with an error code if there is no OS (at least LIC) , there
is no standby like there would be with an HMC.

Could it be done, maybe with smart PDUs etc. the better question is why?
A used HMC is only several hundred and might actually make it doable.

Tape would have to be loaded in the drive, or a tape library available
(TS3100 library is about $500 on the open market, plus tape unit).
Who/when is going to swap tapes? Cloud recovery? Sure give me a month

to

move the data.

The parameters are not realistic. You have to have a way to control
power, mount tapes, and have a console.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 6:26 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

LAN Console would help in that case. It would help if your local PC
was allowed to be the LAN Console. Sometimes people go really
paranoid on console as if it were ok that your data was open to the
world but heaven help you if your console access is. If not, then
you'd need something which could take control of some remote PC at
that site which was the LAN Console.

I would check your end of tape options SAVSYS DEV(MYTAPE)
ENDOPT(*REWIND) Or were abbreviating GO SAVE, option 21 as SAVSYS
(which is a very bad habit)? If so, then maybe there's some way to
change the defaults on

that

too. However I cannot recall the last time I used that.

I would tend to avoid the DVD as that can get rather dated and would
be missing PTF's.

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I have been given the hypothetical question of how could a single
partition Power 7 IBMi at V7R3 server with NO HMC and NO BRMS be

recovered

remotely ?

As USB is not supported on Power 7 as an alternate IPL device that
is ruled out.

If I put the I-BASE01 DVD in the DVD drive. I could initiate a D
IPL and start a system install but I am not sure if I can get the
system with

ONLY

the I-BASE01 to a operational level where I could then copy the
remaining installation DVD images to a image catalogue or not ?

System does have internal LTO tape so I could do a SAVSYS to tape
and leave the tape in the drive. Only one problem is the SAVSYS
will eject the tape at then end and I don't know how to stop this ?

Please do not ask about how the issue occurred or how the failure of
hardware was resolved without manual intervention, as I said this is
hypothetical!!!

Any suggestions ?

Thank you

Don



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