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Further testing....
/facepalm
here is how I tested....
(old bpcs system)
I revoked *public, and put their group profile as *USE...
I asked them to go into their Payment terms master, and make a change...

they said "they couldn't ... cannot update!!!"

I now find out....
1) whole message on ACR110 said "cannot update. Entry not found".
2) would you have guessed that the app doesn't understand the difference
between the payment term "S " and " S" (Sblank vs blankS)????






On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:48 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am suspecting that your owner and your group profile are the same. This
is a shot to the foot.

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that is how we have all our programs.
USRPRF(*OWNER).
and what you state is how I thought it was supposed to be.

we have all objects owned by the same user as owns database object
we have USRPRF(*OWNER)

I took away *PUBLIC (made *PUBLIC *EXCLUDE)
--- they then couldn't download table into excel.
I then added their group profile to object (FINANCGRP *USE)
---they then got green screen application errors, couldn't open file for
*UPDATE
I then changed authority to FINANCGRP *CHANGE
--- it now all works, but that is more authority than I want to grant.





On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:17 AM David Gibbs via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 5/21/20 9:42 AM, Gerald Magnuson wrote:
so my users that need file transfer and excel to bring down data,
they need to be as *all or *change authority? because if I just give
them *use, then their green screen apps won't work (they can't update
data anymore)....

having their group profile in authority list trumps adoptive authority?
how is this supposed to work?

I realize this may be a big change, but what about setting the program to
use
owner authority and changing the program owner to a profile that can
update the
file?

That way you can remove the users authority to update the file. They will
be
able to read it, but not update. When the program runs, the authority
used will
be that of the *PGM object's owner.

So, create a application owner profile that has authority to update the
file.

Change the owner of the program to the new profile.

Change the program to use *OWNER as the USRPRF attribute: 'CHGPGM
PGM(ABC/XYZ)
USRPRF(*OWNER)'

You may need to control access to the program itself if you don't control
access
at the application level.

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