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I know this, Rob. Not really my question.

For some reason the admin of a site seems to think the ciphers used by
their SSL certificate are the ciphers set up on their system (similar to
QSSLCSL system value), not the ciphers used in the actual SSL certificate.

I was asking if I was misunderstanding something about the SSL handshake,
or they were. :)

From how I understand it the client says "I can support these ciphers". If
the SSL certificate on the server uses those, it's ok. If not, it's an
error.

On the flip side, the list means nothing to the SSL certificate when doing
the handshake from the server side of things as the ciphers are part of the
certificate itself.

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On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:24 PM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kind of list the original thread. If this is a website you can go to
ssllabs.com and ask them to check out the site and tell you

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So, here's an interesting turn. The place that is using this certificate
we asked if they could update it so they are not using an obsolete cipher.
The main reasoin is that if they didn't, it would mean changing the
defaults of SSL on the system so we could modify the cipher list. Not
always a good idea (although all other systems seem to work with this
certificate).

They replied with a note saying that they support all these ciphers [insert
large list here] so it shouldn't be an issue.

I tried to explain that the list isn't what their SSL certificate is using
or is making available to clients connecting. That would be like me
showing a client the system value for QSSLCSL and saying that my SSL
website accepts all those ciphers, when in fact it's the certificate itself
that uses specific ciphers.

Am I missing something here, or is this just a miscommunication? I don't
think they understand how SSL handshakes work.. or maybe I don't! :)

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On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:59 AM B Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ok, I have verified by updating the SSL cipher list that this error was
in
fact caused by an obsolete cipher. When I added the cipher to the list
the
error disappeared.

We will be working with the admins of the endpoint to see if they are
willing to update their certificate.


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On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:54 PM B Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I already have all that information from the chrome inspection. I even
posted it in my reply to Scott.


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:27 PM Jack Woehr <
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On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:50 PM B Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


But I would need to know/look up which cipher(s) to enable to test my
theory. :)


To test the server and see what it is serving up for SSL:

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/

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