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Thanks for that SQL, I'll put it in the bag of tricks.



As to the BRMS you are right, it still takes time to backup those files and if we don't want them. It's not worth the effort. I'll have the auditor in question give you a call next year 😉.......



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Actually the ALWSAV(*NO) can be retrieved with a SQL command.

select path_name, object_type, object_owner, allow_save

from table(qsys2.IFS_OBJECT_STATISTICS(

start_path_name => '/QIBM/UserData/OS400/ServiceAgent',

subtree_directories => 'YES'))

where allow_save = 'NO'

limit 10;



The problem with BRMS omits is that we always use OMITS(*NO) on our dedicated full system saves. I still don't want those directories.



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We have run into auditors that faint with the vapors every time we set

*ALWSAV *NO. They claim the system is unrecoverable. (even the files for

IBM i hosted partitions) When we point out, as you do, that those files are

not needed for a recovery, they seem to be OK with the BRMS omits, since

that "documents that you are not backing them up". I'm not aware of an IBM

supplied report that shows the *ALWSAV attribute when it's no, and they

would not accept a custom report.



I love auditors........



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Had a backup give us some warning messages that some stream files were

locked. These were highly expendable and recreated at will. So I submitted

a RFE that IBM flag that directory with ALWSAV(*NO)

<http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=142309> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=142309





BRMS backup is getting:

CPFA09E Object in use. Object is

/QIBM/UserData/OS400/ServiceAgent/trace/esa.log.0.lck.

CPFA09E Object in use. Object is

/QIBM/UserData/OS400/ServiceAgent/trace/esa.log.0.

QSYS.QSRGENSE.QSROBJEC

While I could add these to a BRMS omit list I am wondering, since these

appear to be log files and/or lock indicators, and IMHO appear to be

expendable and something the system will rebuild as needed, if IBM should

perform a CHGATR OBJ('/QIBM/UserData/OS400/ServiceAgent/trace') ATR(*ALWSAV)

VALUE(*NO) IBM has flagged numerous directories like this with that

attribute starting a few releases ago.

IBM Response:

Hi Robert, thank you for contacting the IBM Global support Center. I

discussed with the ESA specialist and he said that The ESA.log.xx files are

trace logs for ESA transmissions and they usually delete them for problem

recreation. Then it is OK if you change the *ALWSAV attribute to *NO.



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