For a few PTFs maybe but then it's likely you need them all anyway so it doesn't help.

For groups: Don't do it. IBM recommends to not do it. The risk goes up and up the further you are behind in applying them and as there are many dependencies when doing groups you likely do yourself no favors anyway while you risk issues.

Especially with TRs there are mandatory IPLs in there. AND by doing a Perm Apply all with an IPL (and then of course a SAVE 21 or at least 22) before you load PTFs the chance of issues is much lower.

I do a zillion PTFs. I do not have issues.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service. - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 1/22/2020 10:51 AM, Steinmetz, Paul via MIDRANGE-L wrote:
Rethinking PTF apply strategy.
Currently - 1=Set all PTFs delayed.

I'm thinking of switching back to 2=Apply immediate, set delayed PTFs.
Majority of PTFs can be applied immediately.
Especially for PCI and vulnerability PTFs.
These could be applied without an IPL and little or no impact on users.

Years, or decades ago, did 2=Apply immediate, set delayed PTFs.
Had one issue.
IBM support stated that 2=Apply immediate was intended for individual, emergency PTFs only.
Not intended for groups.

Anyone in the group current using 2=Apply immediate, set delayed PTFs
Any thoughts from the group.

Thank You
Paul Steinmetz
IBM i Systems Administrator

Pencor Services, Inc.
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Palmerton Pa 18071

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