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Hi, Rob,

Right on.

And to add to this:

- where is the annoucement letter or MTU that says that "Management Central" is now "deprecated" and no longer supported?


- there is a big difference between no longer enhanced and "dropped" entirely

- what official version/release of IBM i is Management Central no longer supported at?


- V7R2?

- V7R3?

- what TR levels?

Just saying ...

Mark S. Waterbury



On Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 12:45:53 PM EDT, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm open to enlightenment but I thought Management Central was a gatherer and System i Navigator (part of the deprecated IBM i Client Access for Windows) was a client to use it.
I do see this:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/ssw_ibm_i_72/rzahg/rzahg2aaih.htm
However I have a few questions.
1-Why is STRTCPSVR *MGTC still an option at 7.2 and beyond if it's not supported?
2-Why does STRTCPSVR *MGTC still fire off a job which runs at 7.2 and beyond if it's not supported?
3-Why does this QYPSJSVR job keep spawning so many QSQSRVR jobs?
4-Why does even the 7.4 Knowledge Center refer so often to MGTC?
5-Are we positive that it doesn't still collect data used by other tools to analyze?
I'm not sure on many of these.

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Subject: RE: New IPL timing issiue since applying latest V7R3 CUME and TR6

IBM is now suggesting that I should no longer be using Management Central, since it is part of System I Navigator, which is no longer supported.
The QYPSJSVR job, which threw the error and  is a Management Central job, should actually not be started/running.

I'm curious what others are doing with Management Central?

Paul


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Subject: RE: New IPL timing issiue since applying latest V7R3 CUME and TR6

We have EIM configured, so a little out of the norm.
Be curious if any other users experience the same issue.

Paul

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Subject: RE: New IPL timing issiue since applying latest V7R3 CUME and TR6

Were you doing something outside the norm?  Since you're sharing this is there a possibility that all may be affected or just those using an outside the norm configuration?

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Subject: New IPL timing issiue since applying latest V7R3 CUME and TR6

Since applying latest V7R3 CUME and TR6, (R&D LPAR), a new timing issue is occurring on IPL.

I received CPI93B2 from Management Central job QYPSJSVR Software problem data for QSYEIMSYS has been logged
Symptom string  . . . . . . . . . :  5770 SP/QSYEIMSYS MOD/EIMHANDLE RC110

Opened PMR with IBM.

Turns out QUSRDIR job  (IBM Tivoli Directory Server instance) is now starting after QYPSJSVR.
QUSRDIR needs to be started before QYPSJSVR.

Currently, I have QYPSJSVR set to start with TCP/IP.
Probably need to change this.

Thank You
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