RE: Agile coming to our shop (supposedly)

What talking about is called Extreme Programming IIRC. Devs work full time in pairs. They share a single desk and a single computer. They take turns sitting at the keyboard.



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From: Bradley Stone [mailto:bvstone@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:30 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Agile coming to our shop (supposedly)

Countless times I've been in meetings with clients where it is myself and a programmer on the other side (say we're discussing web services and communicating between our systems). And of course, 5 or more in management. More often than not, the 2 hour call ends up being me and the other programmer in the last 10 minutes saying "hey, can you put together a JSON layout of what you want, and I'll just send it over". "Great idea.
I'll get you the endpoints as well." Call done, work done. Time wasted,
but of course billed for. :)

Bradley V. Stone
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On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 4:18 PM Richard Schoen < Richard.Schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Try pair programming for a few days and you will definitely flee for
the hills.

I said Alt-F4, not Shift-F4. Let me be the left hand for a while and
you be the right so I can work on my dexterity.

Regards,

Richard Schoen
Director of Document Management
e. richard.schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p. 952.486.6802
w. helpsystems.com

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message: 7
date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 15:01:50 -0600
from: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Agile coming to our shop (supposedly)

rigid methodology is the enemy of productivity.


On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Pete Helgren <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am on the backside of a three day conference that focused on
microservices (Cloud native technologies, actually) but Agile raised
it's ugly head because CI/CD is an integral part of microservice
deployment and CI/CD is all about agile.

I highly recommend that you read through a report found here:

https://explore.versionone.com/state-of-agile/12th-annual-
state-of-agile-report-overview (download the report in PDF....)

One of the more interesting findings was the response to the
statement:"Agile practices are enabling greater adaptability to
market conditions" Only 4% of respondents said that was true, which
says a lot about using agile to respond to the market. Since the
vendor sponsoring the conference is deep into microservices and
cloud native tech, they also admitted that their products, an ESB
among them, contributes to the complexity of a microservice solution
which they felt was hampering an agile workflow.

Features of agile have their place in "modern" development. More
rapid iteration, working more closely with the end customer,
breaking the work down into smaller pieces: All good stuff IMHO.
But in my particular case, the organization I work for has adopted a
bunch of agile practices and collaboration software ( Slack, Podio,
Zoom conferencing, plus the usual email and texting) that seems to
have added

even more vectors of complexity

to the development process. Give me an hour with an end user and
sketchpad any day. Nothing facilitates communication better than
face to face....

Like "microservices", the term agile has many nuances of meaning.
Balancing process and programming is the key.

Pete Helgren
www.petesworkshop.com
GIAC Secure Software Programmer-Java Twitter - Sys_i_Geek
IBM_i_Geek

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