RE: linux command question

As I look back over the past few decades of the S/38, AS/400, iSeries, IBM i, I wonder what people brand new to the system have to know just to get started! The 'traditional' "Hello, World" kind of job on the iSeries requires knowledge of command entry, subsystems, QINTER, compilers, STRSEU (or better), jobqs, QBATCH, outqs, QSPL, etc. etc.

The Beginner almost has to have a guide! You can't just plop someone down in front of the system and say 'Go ahead... just play!"

"It's just this little chromium switch here..." >click< "You people are -so- superstitious!"

Paul E Musselman
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of aec
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 9:04 AM
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Subject: Re: linux command question

I remember my first time at an AS/400 terminal. a friend ran a
(vocational and technical) school, and he had one of the first AS/400 to
teach with in South Florida (outside IBM I guess).

He was busy, told me go ahead and get on and "play" with it, and gave me
a manual. I had experience with the S/36. The AS/400 was powered off.
The manual page on IPL was full of stuff about those front panel codes,
booting with A or B, and other stuff. But nothing clear on what happens
when you power up.

Sure, but what happens, what's on the Sign-On screen, all that?? Any
caveats? Finally he came over from the other room, and he told me just
press the Power button.

Alan


On 7/1/18 11:47 AM, Jack Woehr wrote:

Jim, I appreciate your concern for the emotional context.

I did answer Tim's question fully, and was happy to parade my expertise :)

And I smiley'd the RTFM.

Tim thanked me offline.

I gave him the classic Unix sysadmin's answer, the one I was given, lo,
these 35 years ago.

Give a man a fish, teach a man to fish, teach a user to man :)

The man pages are thick, but so are the IBM i docs.

If one uses the system, one learns to read them.

"If I don't help myself, who will help me? And if not now, when?" asks the
Talmud.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 6:33 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:
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RTFM ... 'man find' :)
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