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Re: QS36F file format error after migrating LPAR

I have the tape library. I know how to move and identify the tape. I've not
had any problem with it at all ... once the system is running.

Using it as an alt-ipl or alt-install has been the problem.

Thanks again for your help. I'll post back as I uncover the mystery, or
I'll send you a postcard from Borneo :)


On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<snip>
Tape : I tried some stuff last week and it showed the drive but was never
able to use it.
</snip>
Do you have a tape library? If so you have to make sure the tape is in
the drive and not in any of the other slots. This can be done with the
front panel or gui (if your library has one).

<snip>
IDDU: Thanks for the tip. I'm going to IPL my almost-working system and
fiddle with that ... that sounds really good.
</snip>
Hope that works. And that is the last oddity on your restore.


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From: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/09/2018 01:26 PM
Subject: Re: QS36F file format error after migrating LPAR
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Tape : I tried some stuff last week and it showed the drive but was never
able to use it.
IDDU: Thanks for the tip. I'm going to IPL my almost-working system and
fiddle with that ... that sounds really good.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I may have gotten really lucky and it was always on the first bus.


Rob Berendt
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From: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/09/2018 01:17 PM
Subject: Re: QS36F file format error after migrating LPAR
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



I think you're getting through. I got as far as "select alternate
installation device" a few times in the past.

It never seems to find the tape drive

If I install from DVD (virt opt) the installed system can see the tape
drive and restore from it.

When I restored I got an *almost* working system. Arggh.

So I guess I will go back down the "select alternate installation
device"
and see if I can make any more progress with that than I did before.


On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm just not getting through...
<snip>
So the ideal if I'm doing the migration is to boot off the tape?
</snip>
"IF" you can boot off the tape then by all means do so. If you cannot
boot from the tape then you will need to use an alternate IPL device.
In
my case I used DVD. IDK if you can use virtual optical, and then
initialize your disk and start the restore or if the system will abort
because the virtual optical is now gone. I think I did have issues if
I
removed the DVD too soon during my upgrades.

I think the RSTCFG issue had little to anything to do with your QS36F
issue.




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From: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/09/2018 01:05 PM
Subject: Re: QS36F file format error after migrating LPAR
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Rob --


I have booted from virtual optical to do OS
upgrades but never to initialize a system and start over.


So the ideal if I'm doing the migration is to boot off the tape?


See RSTCFG SRM(*NONE)


Does that which is restored by RSTCFG have anything to do with IDDU
and
QS36F?




On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What I will say is follow the recovery and/or migration manual(s)
very
carefully. For example, when you do the restore you want to ensure
that
you tell it you are coming from a different system. You definitely
do
not
want to restore the SRM. It's not an event to put you into your
happy
place.

See RSTCFG SRM(*NONE)

From the help:
ATTENTION Unless the system you are restoring to has exactly the
same hardware configuration as the system that the original
configuration was saved on, you must specify SRM(*NONE) on this
command to prevent the restore of the SRM information. If the SRM
information is restored on a system with a different hardware
configuration, the configuration objects may become unusable.


Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/09/2018 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: QS36F file format error after migrating LPAR
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



I used these instructions migrating from P6 to P8. Why wouldn't it
work
migrating from P7 to P8?

<snip>
1. Am I right that the tape can't be the IPL installation device
if
it
was made from a P7 and I'm migrating/restoring to a P8?
</snip>
You combined terms here. The terms are:
- Alternate IPL Device
- Alternate Installation Device
Not IPL installation device. The fact that it comes from a
different
system has no bearing on whether or not this tape drive can be your
alternate IPL device or not. It has more to do with your bus
configurations and whatnot.
I used DVD as an alternate IPL device and tape as an alternate
installation device.

Whether or not you can boot from virtual optical an then cream that
virtual optical device when you restore LIC and all from tape would
be
an
interesting exercise. I have booted from virtual optical to do OS
upgrades but never to initialize a system and start over.

Rob Berendt
--
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Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/09/2018 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: QS36F file format error after migrating LPAR
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Rob, I'm trying to understand your instructions.

Questions:

1. Am I right that the tape can't be the IPL installation device
if
it
was made from a P7 and I'm migrating/restoring to a P8?
2. So then can I boot (as I have done many times) from virt opt
and
get
up to your instruction 13 and proceed from there using your
instructions?

13. Work with system security
These values should all be “1”. You may have to change “Allow a
service
tool user ID…”.


And even so, is what follows going to work if I'm migrating from P7
to
P8?


On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Did you notice the quite detailed instructions on how to boot from
a
DVD
yet do 100% of your install from tape?

Much of this is from the recovery manual. However instead of
skipping
all
around the darn thing I laid the steps out sequentially in an
effort
to
ease others.

Keep in mind that I did 15 unload/reloads of IBM i 7.1 from Power
6
to
Power 8 systems following instructions with this snippet as part
of
them.
And I had coworkers follow them and do them on their own with me
out
of
the building also.

Rob Berendt
--
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Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/09/2018 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: QS36F file format error after migrating LPAR
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:




Refresh my memory, did we already talk you through going into
SST
and
seeing if your tape device is flagged as an alternate
installation
device?
And can it also be used as an alternate IPL device?



Thanks for talking, Rob. I think I d'oh suddenly figured it out.
The
tape
works, it just won't boot. It's a type 21 GO SAVE.

But the source machine is a P7 and the target is P8. There's no
way
that's
going to work, methinks.

Arrgh. Now I have to figure out how to migrate and fix this
system.
No
BRMS
restore-the-system report, since it's not done with BRMS.

Is there a magic incantation to reconnect the QS36F files with
their
data
definitions? My head hurtz ...


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