Re: What is a Modern RPG Programmer???

wrote:

Steve Will blogs today about What Is Modern RPG: http://ibmsystemsmag.com/
blogs/you-and-i/august-2015/rpg-and-ibm-i-programming-languages/

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

If it _only_ uses globals and doesn't produce a specific result then that
would be in the "OK yo can do that" category.

The reason I started applying this rule is that too many long-time RPG
programmers just don't think it through and just do what they have always
done. This rule forces them to think about what they are doing.


Jon Paris

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On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:09 PM, Richard Schoen <

Richard.Schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I was thinking on this one a bit and aren't sub-procedures main

functions where you pass parms in and get info back.

Much like in other programming I do, I like to think of them as a black

box, especially when used across applications.

If a sub-procedure for some reason uses all the global program

variables and is simply being used to encapsulate some looping logic or
something similar, why not use a subroutine instead ?

Just thinking out loud on this.

I don't do a ton of RPG coding any more so a few example use-cases

would be good to hear about.

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Richard Schoen
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date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 11:23:02 -0500
from: Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: What is a Modern RPG Programmer???

I have to agree with Rob on this.

My policy is that if you want to use a subprocedure go ahead. If you

want to use a subroutine then you need to explain to me what benefits it
offers and why you are convinced that it will never need parameters or a
return value.

Future protection - I don't want my programmers producing future relics.


Jon Paris

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www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

John Erps,

I didn't say never use a subroutine. I said that I personally went
hardcore on only using subprocedures for a year. And stated my reason.
You can see that below in the thread. Once I broke the habit of
falling back to what was easy and comfortable I used subroutines where
appropriate. I really thought I was quite clear on that.

One thing to keep in mind is to always think of the future.
What may be a subroutine in an existing program could evolve.
- First into a subprocedure
- Next moved out of the main program into a service program.
- Then someone could create a UDF from that service program
subprocedure
- That UDF could be called by SQL with stuff like Select item_number,
onhand(item_number)...
- That UDF could be imbedded into an SQL view Create view Item_user
as (select item_number, onhand(item_number)...
and thus making user queries easier.


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