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OMG!!! Do not encourage him!

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Sent: 2018 January 10 13:12
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Subject: Re: Convert a database file to Html format - Python perhaps ?
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I'm still waiting for you to port .Net Core Richard - what's the hold up? <grin>

Seriously though - you can't be the only .Net fan out there so why isn't it being done? Surely it doesn't need IBM to do it just as Python didn't originally. IBM was late to the game with that.


Jon Paris

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On Jan 10, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Richard Schoen <Richard.Schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What's old is new again !!

My normal food of choice is .Net and now .Net Core.

I now do more multi-platform stuff, the shell scripting languages are more and more part of the daily diet.

However .Net Core now runs everywhere except IBMi :)

Also since I grew up in the green screen era, I like to try and make these technologies more accessible from traditional IBMi applications, thus my affinity for creating wrappers.

Now we can have more Python discussions here !!

Regards,

Richard Schoen
Director of Document Management
e. richard.schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p. 952.486.6802
w. helpsystems.com

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message: 4
date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:48:48 -0500
from: John Yeung <gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Convert a database file to Html format - Python perhaps ?

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Richard Schoen <Richard.Schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I find the Python scripting to be a bit cleaner than PHP so far.

I've been going on about Python for ages and you're just now playing
around with it? I guess I feel both dismissed and vindicated at the
same time. ;)

Note that I've been using iSeriesPython since V5R2, which is actually
even earlier than PHP became available for IBM midrange. (And I know
of at least one shop which used iSeriesPython in production on
V4-something.)

I still feel like these un-typed languages leave much room for error, but they are greatly embraced in today's world so I guess I can go along sometimes. Moo....

It's definitely incorrect to call Python or PHP "un-typed languages".
They have types.

But they are *dynamically* typed.

Moreover, there is a very significant difference between the behavior of types in Python versus PHP (and JavaScript). Python is *strongly* typed, meaning that values of one type are not generally interchangeable with values of another type. Python will give you an error if you try to add a number to a string, for example. PHP and JavaScript will blithely (and silently) coerce values into other types until the operation can proceed, and then do the operation, with sometimes <strike>insane</strike>difficult to debug results. Besides the syntax, this is another aspect of Python that may be contributing to a "cleaner feeling" than PHP.

John Y.

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