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Re: Operating system name

I seem to recall that NEPs (never ending program) were based on
a 2 character screen id. Based on those 2 characters you could
be pretty selective about what that program would be doing and to
whoever was in it..
Seem to recall that you were limited to no more than 9 concurrent
"sessions"?
It's a blur.

Bill





From: Luis Rodriguez <luisro58@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 05/05/2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: Operating system name
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



And then there was WSU....................... Shudder

Hey, Don’t dis WSU!! :-)

Back in 1979/80 I had been working for a few months as a
operator/programmer for a MAI BBI computer (BASIC-based) when our S/34
arrived. My boss asked me to write the main billing entry program in WSU,
as the company’s “star” programmer had, even after several IBM courses,
been unable to do so. I asked for the manual and had the program up and
running in a short time. I found WSU very easy to learn and use (and quite
compact and efficient).

Note to the younger generations: WSU (Work Station Utility) was a RPG-like
language used to program (green screen) interactive applications. It ran
as
a never-ending program, where every user shared the same program in memory
and the programmer was responsible for maintaining the data separated for
each user (due to fading neurons, exact coding details are a little hazy).

Regards,
Luis


On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:44 PM Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It took a lot of diligence on a programmer's part to modify the order
entry
program in DMAS and keep the compiled size under 64K.

And then there was WSU....................... Shudder

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978 <(708)%20670-6978>
Office 409-267-4027 <(409)%20267-4027>
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Pete
Gettel
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 12:47 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Operating system name

The biggest change I've seen over the years is the reduced need for
"Performance" programming. Back in the day, every storage byte and
machine
cycle was important. We would design our record lengths to fit within a
storage block in order to not waste storage space. We would also pack
out
numeric fields to save space (sometimes even make them binary). We also
would design our program structures to preserve machine instructions and
disk I/O. Can you imagine running SQL on a System/34?

-----Original Message-----
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Douglas Dunn
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 1:41 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Operating system name

This discussion is fascinating to me! If anyone has any "war stories" to
tell, feel free to off-list reply to me. I'm really interested, as a
younger
developer who made money in college by restoring and selling "vintage"
hardware. But I've never seen a system 34, 38, or anything like that.

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Raul A Jager W <raul@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I also learned in a 1130. For read - process - print jobs it was
almost twice as fast as fortran.



On 05/02/2017 03:49 PM, Pete Gettel wrote:

Aren't we all Paul. I learned RPG on an IBM 1130. 8k memory/5 mb
removable disk.

-----Original Message-----
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Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 3:26 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Operating system name

I still have my RPG II programming class certificate from September,
1973
(S/3 Model 10). The class was taught by actual IBM guys in actual IBM
offices.

I'm getting old. :-))

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978 <(708)%20670-6978>
Office 409-267-4027 <(409)%20267-4027>
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
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Of broehmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 2:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Operating system name

+2 Wow. So long ago.

Bill




From: Jeff Young <jyoung0950@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 05/02/2017 01:52 PM
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+1 on S/3 CCP Model 15D

Jeff Young
Sr. Programmer Analyst

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Pete Gettel
<Pete.Gettel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Anybody remember reloading your assignment set when you made a change
to

a

CCP program on the S3/15D?

-----Original Message-----
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Of Raul A Jager W
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 11:22 AM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Operating system name

Yes, I have user the S/34 after using the S/32 and the S/3.


On 05/02/2017 11:08 AM, broehmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Umm.....

The System/38 offered more capacity than the previous System/34.
Somewhat confusingly, the System/38 chronologically preceded the
System/36, which was a successor to the System/34.
(from the wiki)



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From: Raul A Jager W <raul@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 05/02/2017 10:03 AM
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Before that it was called SSP ( in S 36 )


On 05/02/2017 10:57 AM, Brian Johnson wrote:

As one with a gray beard I feel compelled to mention the origin:

System/38 Control Program Facility (CPF)

:)

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Michael Ryan
<michaelrtr@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

Several? What are the different OS names? OS/400, i5/OS, IBMi. Are

there

others?
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Raul A Jager W <raul@xxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

Or favorite operating system has changed name several times, how
is it called now?

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