RE: Really? There's still people using the QDLS file system on IBM i7.3?

The big problem I see with publicly held companies run by educated fools is
that they focus more on their quarterly earnings reports than investing for
the long run good of the company.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 409-267-4027
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
DrFranken
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 10:11 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Really? There's still people using the QDLS file system on IBM
i7.3?

This is the 'tires on your car' problem. Yep still round. Yep still hold
air. You know they will not work at a future point but you just keep
driving. You're going to change them 'before it snows' yeah before that.
Really. So you're OK. Then it snows early. A lot. And that early snow is
usually snotty and OOOOOOH MY THAT's A TREEEEEEEEEE. Crunch. Too late.
On the good side don't need those new tires anymore. :-) :-)

That mapped drive to QDLS? Many problems with that. Might not even work
next time. In fact the newer the Windows version the less likely it will
work at all and almost certainly must be the first drive you map or not
gonna work. Microsoft has issued several fixes over the years that have
completely busted access to QDLS and no longer supports the 8.3 file
system. When is the next one coming?

Update a process on IBM i to use SQL or Java and output to QDLS and
wait? It fails now what gives? Not threadsafe. Oops.

Implementing PowerHA on your new Power8 severs? EXCELLENT. Why didn't my
folders replicate? Because they won't.

I understand the 'standing code that works' problem. But like the tires,
the longer you ignore it the more opportunities for failure. The more
chance that a CRITICAL change will force your hand. Do it while you can
plan it.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 1/5/2017 4:10 PM, Lindstrom, Scott R. wrote:

Depending on your company it can be hard to get projects approved to

change code that works when there are other more pressing projects that need
to get done.

Scott

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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of

Paul Nelson

Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 2:38 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Really? There's still people using the QDLS file system on

IBM i 7.3?

Yes, they are. The one client still using it (V7R1) sends thousands of
invoices a day over a secure connection to RR Donnelly for printing and
mailing.

I quit suggesting that they migrate into the 21st century.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 409-267-4027
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 1:48 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Really? There's still people using the QDLS file system on IBM i
7.3?

1. IBM i 7.3

- TITLE: Cannot Save Files From Office In QDLS With SMB2 Enabled
- URL:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ibm.com_support_docv
iew.wss-3Fuid-3Dnas8N1021794-26myns-3Dibmi-26mynp-3DOCSST&d=DgICAg&c=_2Jymsj
koSdpgdT4DmA4bg&r=-518Ilz5cVhEAzb0mENLKbaCPCUJ_jWIaTTDYAFSng4&m=TWPZ21OXHOBV
F9NJrIf6I29f5U-evTnSPhp1N4m2548&s=CwRDt20IVlzTUvTDq3MVgcOLP52CnErl4cvTYBTf5u
k&e=

S2D&mynp=OCSWG60&mync=E&cm_sp=ibmi-_-OCSSTS2D-OCSWG60-_-E
- ABSTRACT: Users trying to save a file from Microsoft Office to a share
in the QDLS file system will get an error, "Document not saved".

I could maybe see this if they were using some crappy vendor package which
insisted on using QDLS because the vendor won't spend time upgrading (like
changing from CPYTOPCD to CPYTOIMPF).

But for general "let's use IBM i to do file serving" and still use QDLS?
To me that's like dropping a turd sandwich in the user's mouth because of
the 8.3 file naming alone. All the users will be thinking "that crappy
AS400 only supports the old 8.3 file naming". Just remap it and it over
with!