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RE: Job User Identity

That link helped explain more. Thank you very much Charles. The set by was *SYSTEM

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 4:27 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Job User Identity

Assuming a current version of the OS, WRKACTJOB shows CURRENT USER by default
Current
Opt Subsystem/Job User Type CPU % Function Status
QUSRWRK QSYS SBS .0 DEQW
QSCLICEV QSYS BCH .0 DEQW
QSCWCHMS QUSER BCH .0 DEQW
QZDASOINIT QSECOFR PJ .0 TIMW
QZDASOINIT WILTC PJ .0 TIMW

Hit F11 twice and you'll see (JOB) USER
Opt Subsystem/Job User Number Type CPU % Threads
QUSRWRK QSYS 492659 SBS .0 2
QSCLICEV QUSER 493128 BCH .0 1
QSCWCHMS QUSER 493126 BCH .0 1
QZDASOINIT QUSER 492692 PJ .0 1


Which is different than Job User Identity...
Job: QZDASOINIT User: QUSER Number: 494075

Status of job . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ACTIVE
Current user profile . . . . . . . . . . . : WILTC
Job user identity . . . . . . . . . . . . . : WILTC
Set by . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *DEFAULT


My apologies...I thought you were asking about JOB USER, ie. QUSER, vs.
Current User , WILTC

Have you looked at the documentation?
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_ibm_i_72/rzaks/rzaksjobuseridentity.htm

What was the "Set by" value?

Charles



On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Boyle, Doreen <doreen.boyle@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Below is what some jobs running in QUSRWRK look like, when you do a 5
to display then a 1 for Job Status Attributes, that's where the
current user shows JSMITH and the Job User Identity showed JDOE the
other day for that one job. JDOE said she wasn't running a job at
that time, so why was her name showing for Job User Identity? Why
when looking at the job later did it have JDOE for both current user
and Job User Identity? Later the job finished and disappeared.

QZDASOINIT JSMITH PJ
QZDASOINIT BDUSER PJ
QZDASOINIT BJOHNS PJ
QZDASOINIT SSAMS PJ
QZDASOINIT RRUSER PJ
QZHQSSRV QSECOFR PJ
QZHQSSRV MADMAN PJ
QZHQSSRV MADMAN PJ
QZRCSRVS QSECOFR PJ

DSPSBSD QUSRWRK Option 10 shows;

Opt Program Library User Profile
QNPSERVS QSYS QUSER
QRWTSRVR QSYS QUSER
QSCWCHPS QSYS QUSER
QZDASOINIT QSYS QUSER
QZDASSINIT QSYS QUSER
QZHQSSRV QSYS QUSER
QZRCSRVS QSYS QUSER
QZSCSRVS QSYS QUSER
QZSOSIGN QSYS QUSER


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Charles Wilt
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:55 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Job User Identity

Ok, so JDOE somehow started the PJ. Is it just one job? Or all of
the QZDASOINIT ones?

Did you look at the subsystem description?

There is a command, Start Pre-start Job STRPJ.

But it's not like a SBMJOB. You have to point it to a SBSD that has a
pre-start job entry for the job you want to start. Also, if the jobs
are already running, STRPJ can't be used to start more.

Charles

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Boyle, Doreen <doreen.boyle@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

No I guess I said that wrong. There was a QZDAOSINIT job with User
Quser in subsystem QUSRWORK, it was a PJ prestart job. The current
user was JSMITH the job user identity was JDOE Set by *SYSTEM. JDOE
said she didn't have any queries running and wondered why her name
was on that job. When I looked later both current user and job user
identity was JDOE on that job.
Didn't know exactly how to explain it to her.
________________________________________
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 5:20 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Job User Identity

So what that's saying is that JSMITH actually started a QZDASOINIT
job somehow...that was later reused by JDOE.

Off the top of my head, I don't know how JSMITH would have done that...

What is the job type? Pre-start jobs should have Type=PJ

What subsystem? If you do a DSPSBSD for that subsystem and select
option 10-Prestart job entries, what is shown as the user profile
for the QZDASOINIT job?
Program Library User Profile
QNPSERVS QSYS QUSER
QRWTSRVR QSYS QUSER
QSCWCHPS QSYS QUSER
QZDASOINIT QSYS QUSER
QZDASSINIT QSYS QUSER

Charles


On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Boyle, Doreen
<doreen.boyle@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

Thank you Charles

The user couldn't figure out why his name was on the job, he
didn't have any queries running. So if I understand correctly
JSMITH had a
QZDASOINIT
job running, with him showing both current and job user, then JDOE
made
an
ODBC connection and an API did a profile swap and changed the
current
user
to JDOE? Sorry this is kind of confusing.

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 2:06 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Job User Identity

Authority comes from the CURRENT USER only.

Every job in the system starts under a user ID. When the job
starts,
the
job user and the current user are the same. In the case of pre-start
jobs
like QZDASOINIT, the job user is a system profile, QUSER.

JOB USER never changes, CURRENT USER changes when the job uses API
to
swap
to another profile.

For the QZDASOINIT jobs, the profile swap happen when someone
connects to the system using ODBC/JDBC/OLEDB. The credentials
they use to connect
are
used to swap CURRENT USER of the servicing QZDASOINIT job so that
the connected user is working within his/her own authority.

Charles

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Boyle, Doreen
<doreen.boyle@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

Can someone please explain Job User Identity to me, and exactly
what controls it.

I noticed a QZDASOINIT job with different names for current user
and Job User Identity. I googled and read some blurbs, but was
getting a little confused about threads, *SYSTEM and *DEFAULT
values etc. Is it that the current user JSMITH submitted a
query job that runs a batch job that has multi threads in it and
needs to use the profile JDOE listed as the Job User Identity to
perform
more functions???
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