RE: Selling a used 520 -- MIDRANGE-L

You can down load the AIX stand-alone diagnostics CD and reformat the drives to 512.

Monty

date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 19:00:45 +0100
from: Holger Scherer <hs@xxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Selling a used 520

If used with HMC, then direct linux LPAR is no big issue (if you have 512b disks). If not, you need an IBM i host LPAR for the linux clients or swap the disks. 10 arms? So external disk system like 0595 attached?

-h

Am 09.11.15 um 18:40 schrieb Mike Cunningham:

E4A Power6/V7R1-TR9
Processors 2 (2 active)
Memory 32 GB
Disk 1.3 TB/10-arms
Twinax 1
Ethernet 4 (10/100/1000)
LTO-4 in CEC

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message: 2
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 13:06:48 -0500
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: RE: Selling a used 520

I'm no Linux expert but everything I'm reading there leads me to believe that you can run it standalone without any hosting lpar of IBM i, vios, etc.

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From: Mike Cunningham <mike.cunningham@xxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/09/2015 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a used 520
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

E4A Power6/V7R1-TR9
Processors 2 (2 active)
Memory 32 GB
Disk 1.3 TB/10-arms
Twinax 1
Ethernet 4 (10/100/1000)
LTO-4 in CEC

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 12:34 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Selling a used 520

Probably Power 5 since no E4A, E4B or other model is being mentioned.

Bill

From: "hs@xxxxxxx" <hs@xxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/09/2015 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Selling a used 520
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

power5 or power6?

Viele Gr??e, best regards,
H. Scherer

Am 09.11.2015 um 18:12 schrieb <broehmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

<broehmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

The question:
"Can a 520 run just Linux or does it still need to have iOS on it and

then

run a Linux partition under iOS?" is a really good question. Does

anyone

know offhand?

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message: 3
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 13:07:25 -0500
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: Selling a used 520

forgot about the disk issue...

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From: Holger Scherer <hs@xxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/09/2015 01:01 PM
Subject: Re: Selling a used 520
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

If used with HMC, then direct linux LPAR is no big issue (if you have
512b disks). If not, you need an IBM i host LPAR for the linux clients
or swap the disks. 10 arms? So external disk system like 0595 attached?

-h

Am 09.11.15 um 18:40 schrieb Mike Cunningham:

E4A Power6/V7R1-TR9
Processors 2 (2 active)
Memory 32 GB
Disk 1.3 TB/10-arms
Twinax 1
Ethernet 4 (10/100/1000)
LTO-4 in CEC

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message: 4
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 19:58:11 +0100
from: Marc Rauzier <marc.rauzier@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: QPFRDATA

Le 09/11/2015 17:42, rob@xxxxxxxxx a ?crit :

Are these sizes normal for objects in QPFRDATA?

*MGTCOL objects contain the performance collection.
*FILE objects contain *MGTCOL content dump into database files so that
Performance Tools reports, or your own reports, can analyze them.
Normally, there is one member per dumped collection.

The size of *MGTCOL objects really depends on the collection settings
and the activity of your system.
The cleaning of *MGTCOL and *FILE members can be set with CFGPFRCOL command.

Might they be indicative that perhaps I went overboard in some tracking
setting? If so, what?
Is is kosher to delete everything with a "Last Change" date > 3 months?
Is it out of the realm of sobriety to CLRLIB it when in a restricted
state? Will it just recreate itself? With the usual cautions that
purging the data when in a restricted state right before an upgrade or PTF
might make before/after performance comparisons difficult at best.

The current collection object should be locked by Collection Services
(don't remember the job name, right now).
*FILE objects should be locked by CRTPFRDTA job is you requested to dump
the collection to database file.
I suggest to review CFGPFRCOL settings, and maybe to post them here.

[cut]

Rob Berendt

Marc

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message: 5
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 14:46:55 -0500
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: QPFRDATA

Thank you.
Is this out of line?

Default interval . . . . . . . . 15.00
Collection library . . . . . . . QPFRDATA
Default collection profile . . . *STANDARDP
Cycle time . . . . . . . . . . . 000000
Cycle interval . . . . . . . . . 24
*MGTCOL retention period:
Number of units . . . . . . . 00168
Unit of time . . . . . . . . . *HOURS
Enable system monitoring . . . . *YES
Create standard database files *YES

As far as members...
File . . . . . . QAPMAPPN
Library . . . . QPFRDATA
Member Date
Q302000021 10/30/15
Q303000021 10/31/15
Q304000021 11/01/15
...
Q310000021 11/07/15
Q311000021 11/08/15
Q312000021 11/09/15
Q313000021 11/09/15

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From: Marc Rauzier <marc.rauzier@xxxxxxxxx>
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 11/09/2015 01:58 PM
Subject: Re: QPFRDATA
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Le 09/11/2015 17:42, rob@xxxxxxxxx a ?crit :

Are these sizes normal for objects in QPFRDATA?

Might they be indicative that perhaps I went overboard in some tracking
setting? If so, what?
Is is kosher to delete everything with a "Last Change" date > 3 months?
Is it out of the realm of sobriety to CLRLIB it when in a restricted
state? Will it just recreate itself? With the usual cautions that
purging the data when in a restricted state right before an upgrade or

PTF

might make before/after performance comparisons difficult at best.

Rob Berendt

Marc
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message: 6
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 17:00:54 -0300
from: Roberto Jos? Etcheverry Romero <yggdrasil.raiker@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Selling a used 520

Anything pre-Power8 runs only big endian linux. All Power machines run Aix
and Linux but only licensed machines run IBM i. To install linux on a
power5 520 you need to have 512-byte x sector disks and not the 522 ones
(you can change the disk in the carrier, just get generic SCSI disks and
linux will see them fine).
You can install OpenSuse or any ppc64 linux distro.
Not having a video card will limit you to the serial console but it can be
done.

Best Regards,

Roberto

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:07 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

forgot about the disk issue...

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From: Holger Scherer <hs@xxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/09/2015 01:01 PM
Subject: Re: Selling a used 520
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

If used with HMC, then direct linux LPAR is no big issue (if you have
512b disks). If not, you need an IBM i host LPAR for the linux clients
or swap the disks. 10 arms? So external disk system like 0595 attached?

-h

Am 09.11.15 um 18:40 schrieb Mike Cunningham:

E4A Power6/V7R1-TR9
Processors 2 (2 active)
Memory 32 GB
Disk 1.3 TB/10-arms
Twinax 1
Ethernet 4 (10/100/1000)
LTO-4 in CEC

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message: 7
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 21:36:47 +0100
from: Marc Rauzier <marc.rauzier@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: QPFRDATA

Le 09/11/2015 20:46, rob@xxxxxxxxx a ?crit :

Thank you.
Is this out of line?

Default interval . . . . . . . . 15.00

This is the default value. It should be OK.

Collection library . . . . . . . QPFRDATA
Default collection profile . . . *STANDARDP

It collects basic parameters, including network usage. It should be OK.

Cycle time . . . . . . . . . . . 000000

Every new *MGTCOL starts at midnight. Fine.

Cycle interval . . . . . . . . . 24

One new *MGTCOL is created every 24 hours. Fine.

*MGTCOL retention period:
Number of units . . . . . . . 00168
Unit of time . . . . . . . . . *HOURS

*MGTCOL objects are deleted from the system 168 hours (7 days) after
their usage for collecting data.
Note that *MGTCOL must be dumped to database file to be analyzed (with
CRTPFRDTA command or with "Create standard database files" set to *YES
during collection). I am not aware of any interface to access *MGTCOL
content.

You could, may be, reduce the retention to 2 or 3 days, as they are
dumped to database members.

Enable system monitoring . . . . *YES
Create standard database files *YES

As far as members...
File . . . . . . QAPMAPPN
Library . . . . QPFRDATA
Member Date
Q302000021 10/30/15
Q303000021 10/31/15
Q304000021 11/01/15
...
Q310000021 11/07/15
Q311000021 11/08/15
Q312000021 11/09/15
Q313000021 11/09/15

Database members can be removed according to STDDTARET parameter of
CFGPFRCOL. And, If I remember fine, PM/400 processes can also remove
those members depending on CFGPM400 or GO PM400 settings.

Therefore, in my opinion, the size of *MGTCOL is due to your workload.
All the *MGTCOL below look to have the same size per day, around 4,5 GB.
You have 3 collections for 01th of November probably because of some
restricted state (or collecting jobs ended) between 01:00 and 23:00, but
the total is quite 4,5 GB.
The size of the collection of 05th of November is lower than the other
because of the RTVDSKINF snapshot at 04:00.

Information collected . . . . . . . . . : 11/05/15 04:00:00
Library/ % of Size in Last
Object Type Owner Library 1000 bytes Change
QPFRDATA *LIB QSYS 34438541.3 11/05/15
Q303000102 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV 13.04 4491321.3 10/30/15
Q306000102 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV 13.04 4491321.3 11/02/15
Q307000102 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV 13.04 4491321.3 11/03/15
Q308000102 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV 13.04 4491321.3 11/04/15
Q302000102 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV 12.99 4474544.1 10/29/15
Q304000102 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV 12.85 4424212.5 10/31/15
Q305010002 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV 11.82 4069138.4 11/01/15
Q309000102 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV 2.29 787136.5 11/05/15
Q305000102 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV 1.16 400629.8 11/01/15
Q305230102 *MGTCOL QCOLSRV .63 216473.6 11/01/15

If the size of QPFRDATA is a concern, you could keep less *MGTCOL.
Usually we keep only two of them, but we make sure to have 40 days of
database members so that we cover one month and more.

Rob Berendt

Marc

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