It sound to me that replacement of Management Central has to become a
significant topic at the CAAC. Since the CAAC does not operate in a
completely open fashion, meaning its deliberations and considerations are
not public, we don't know if the CAAC is even discussing this topic. It's
been simmering for some time now but it's clearly going to boil over when
the old client is no longer viable (that day is coming quickly). It is a
question most of us have been asking since day one of the updated IBM i
Navigator. Since there are members of the CAAC on this list, my
1) Tell us what, if any requests have been made regarding the Management
Central functions (all of them open and closed)
2) Tell us why rejected items (if any) were rejected
3) Tell us if IBM has accepted any open items, and if so are they planning
to implement at a release boundary or with TR or similar deployment. (I'm
not asking for timing understanding that it is not reasonable to ask and
expect any real answer)

One reason the CAAC does not work as well as it should is there is only one
way communication. We send information to the CAAC, but get none back.
Folks might actually care more if they were told what was going on.
Notice my comments are directed at the CAAC (COMMON Americas Advisory
Committee) not at IBM. It's the CAAC that claims to represent the community
but It's the CAAC that does not seem to do any communications back to the
users. IBM has been very good about communicating with us, the CAAC, not so

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

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Unless there are other graphs I haven't found these graphs don't
perform the task Rob references and that MANY of my customers utilize.
Yes they are functional and provide good information. They are great for
analysis and investigation with many views offered only here.

But they cannot:

1) Group together multiple graphs in one view that can be sized to any
screen, re-arranged to taste, adjusted for min/max value and time window.

2) Display data from multiple systems at one time each with custom graph
colors and line styles.

3) Set up this collection to be easily started with just a couple clicks.

4) Automatically refresh so that current data is always displayed including
tracking one graph with detail and even further detail within that. (For
example active jobs sorted by CPU and then watch the CPU of a specific job.)

5) Execute trigger events when thresholds are exceeded or reset.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service. - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 8/18/2015 10:40 PM, Sue Baker wrote:
rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote on Tue, 18 Aug
2015 16:41:45 GMT:

The main thing I use iNav for is Management Central, to view
performance on multiple systems.

Have you looked at the monitors that can be set up via Navigator for

Communications lines, LAN utilizations, disk arm utilization, ASP
utiization, CPU utilization, DB rates, response times, spool file
creation rate, machine pool fault rate, user pool fault rates,
temporary storage utilization, and more are available and have been
since spring of 2014.

Information about the monitors can be found at the IBM i Technology
Updates wiki in developerWorks and Knowledge Center.


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