RE: 'green screen' not sellable --> WE(?) are the problem

["Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

What about those who have green screens that feature radio buttons and
scroll bars?


:-)

Paul Nelson
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Office 409-267-4027
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-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
DrFranken
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 7:06 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: 'green screen' not sellable --> WE(?) are the problem

Jim,

	Here's the thing, it's ATTITUDE and APTITUDE. Just because you wrote

awesome subfile applications doesn't mean you can't move forward. As you 
say it may be because of this that you are requested to do more of them. 
If you have the Aptitude you can make them even better. Combine that 
with an Attitude that allows you to continue to seek to do better. You 
may have started by adding links to images or hotspots for the mouse, 
later by refacing, even later by switching to a web based interaction 
completely. You might not get there on day/week/month one but you keep 
suggesting and tweaking and adding. Eventually folks realize that IS the 
next best thing and there you go. Now you're the expert in 'Doing 
Better' not just the expert in subfiles!

	When I say 'Cretins' it's those who THEMSELVES say "I ain't
changing, 
and even if I tried my employer would stop me so why bother." They have 
'parked it' they are dead to me. I understand that you may not want to 
work 12 hours a day 6 or 7 days a week. However you can't work 9 to 5 in 
a 5 day shop that won't change and then whine that you're out of date.


         - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 6/8/2015 3:58 PM, Horn, Jim wrote:

> I hear what you are saying.  We were in a "backward" industry.  We kept
> looking for the great ap, that would make the company say "this is what we
> want to invest in".
>
> At 50+, after 8+ hours, by yourself, in front of the screen, it is
> difficult to work spend your nights working on something that isn't
> "real".  Something you are doing to learn but provides little or no
> interaction with others. I know a number of people on this list can do it,
> but it is not for everyone.  There may be "cretins" out there, who do not
> want to learn, or push themselves, but not all 8 to 6 ers who keep the
> company running, and continue to supply the new functions the company
> needs,  fall into that category.
>
> Some may be the victims of their own success.  Their green screens were so
> good that the programmer wanted to change, but no one else did.
>
> Anyway, please, sympathy for those that may not have the drive or the
> resources you do.
>
>
>
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > message: 9
> > date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:55:42 -0400
> > from: DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > subject: Re: 'green screen' not sellable --> WE(?) are the problem
> >
> >   > "IMHO, this attitude of "IBM i can only do green screen" comes from
> >   > working with programmers who are 20 years behind the times and
> >   > unwilling to try anything new.  Fire those people, they are holding
> >   > you back"
> >
> > ABSOLUTELY! I see it over and over and over. I simply stop dealing with
> > these cretins. Eventually (hopefully soon) they will be fired from
> > enough shops that they vanish and we'll get new people with drive, and
> > ideas, and skills.
> >
> > It's not an age thing that's merely one indicator. Heck some of the best
> > educators in this space who teach the truly modern way are older than
> > many of those who refuse to move out of the 1980s.
> >
> > These are those of whom I wrote in my blog: "You are denting my passion."
> >
> >   >
> >   > While there are some that are "unwilling to try anything new", I
> >   > would say there are more that are "unable to try anything new.  I
> >   > would blame this more on corporations that refuse to spend the time
> >   > or money to let you learn how to do the new stuff..
> >
> > While true(ISH) this is again normally because the I.T. manager in these
> > shops is the anchor! EVEN IF they came from an IBM i (dare I say
> > "AS/400"?) background and were at the TOP of their game and CURRENT with
> > the architecture when they were promoted, they STOPPED PROGRESSING that
> > same second.  What was current and best practice THEN suddenly became
> > that for all time. (Yes Trevor I stole that from you. :-) )  This is the
> > person in the best position to prod the company into moving forward but
> > they don't see the need. They haven't progressed why should anyone else??
> >
> >
> >   > as well as IBM for
> >   > not providing a reasonably priced way for us to have a machine to do
> >   > it on our own (and I know that last point has been beat to death so
> >   > I won't climb on my soapbox).
> >
> > <vendor>
> > Stop whining, It's YOUR Career. For $50 a month you can have access. For
> > $100 you can have your own private partition. Many of you spend more
> > than that on your Cable or Satellite service!
> > If your passion is:
> > Hiking you buy good shoes, yes?
> > Biking you buy good wheels, tires, and bikes, yes?
> > Cooking you buy good knives and pans, yes?
> > Fishing you buy good lures and poles and a BOAT, yes?
> > IBM i you get access to the new stuff, right?????
> > So shut up and invest in yourself already!! (Sorry I'm cranky today.)
> > </vendor>
> >
> >           - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis