Re: Ascii and EBCDIC translation -- MIDRANGE-L

Jim

but try to do a WRKLNK on the file and display it - if it has strange char
try to use
CHGATR and change the *CCSID to 1208 and see if it correct the characters

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Nope - that was a quick answer ;-)
>
> You simply has to know ;-)
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Jim Franz <franz9000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> without asking every entity, can one tell looking at the file attributes?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > even if the files you receive is in CSSID 819/1252 are you sure that
>> they
>> > isn't
>> > UTF-8 files?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Jim Franz <franz9000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > > EBCDIC CCSID = 37
>> > > Most file imports are via ftp - ccsid 1252, occasionally burned dvd
>> for
>> > new
>> > > customer startup of history.
>> > > Some trading partners are mainframe, some unix/Linux, some Win, all US
>> > > based entities, but we think some servers are overseas (we see time
>> > > differences).
>> > >
>> > > When we write ascii text, usually 819
>> > >
>> > > what hurts us most is screen input (web interface to SQL Server then
>> to
>> > > Power i) where user cuts & pastes paragraphs of text from their source
>> > > systems (thousands of different customers).
>> > > Jim
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Jim
>> > > >
>> > > > what is the EBCDIC CSSid on your machine and how do you recieve
>> files?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Jim Franz <franz9000@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > We do a lot of import and export of data, plus have both PC client
>> > > (local
>> > > > > and web) input as well at PC5250.
>> > > > > Had a recent thread involving cut and paste data (ebcdic x'3F')
>> that
>> > > > caused
>> > > > > an issue.
>> > > > > We use CCSID 37 and ascii 819.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There are more EBCDIC characters than what we see on the US
>> Keyboard.
>> > > > Some
>> > > > > we need, such as copyright symbol, cents sign, etc, but many
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We are wanting to take steps to clean the data on input, whether
>> from
>> > > > ascii
>> > > > > or ebcdic side. We have some input already cleansed, but only at
>> > screen
>> > > > > program level.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Couple questions:
>> > > > > 1. Just replacing all below ebcdic x'40'  leaves a lot of strange
>> > > > > characters like x'8C' (sort of a moon with a hat..). One thought
>> is
>> > to
>> > > > > identify all the characters we need and replace the rest. No need
>> to
>> > > keep
>> > > > > line and page formatting stuff.
>> > > > > Is this a good idea?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2. Thinking that since a multitude of entry/update points, db
>> > triggers
>> > > > are
>> > > > > best? Am wondering about apps that write the data, and now after
>> > write,
>> > > > the
>> > > > > screen column data is different than column data in file (trigger
>> pgm
>> > > > > cleaned the data - hoping to avoid opening up all the apps.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 3. How far do people with heavy edi take this? Am I leaving some
>> > > > something
>> > > > > out with the keyboard characters plus a few more? These are names,
>> > > > > addresses, notes (which are sometimes pages of notes).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jim Franz
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