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I was once arguing with a tech support person (not IBM) on how their
software was "not working" and after quite a bit of explaining the
shortcoming, she responded that "well it functions as designed". My
response was "Well then your design sucks" and I hung up.

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Oberholtzer
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:13 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Poodle patches really "breaking" anything?

That is a problem I admit, and the one place I do tend to use Firefox. What
puzzles me is how the fine folks in Austin that build the HMC code can't
seem to get the four big browsers to work on the HMC. Call in the
problem, and they will tell you it works as designed. Designed by whom? I
think they just don't want to admit they botched it up, again......

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul
Fenstermacher
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:01 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Poodle patches really "breaking" anything?

Jim, I've tried multiple times to move to Chrome, IE, and Safari. One of my
systems has 28 partitions and I can't get any browser except Firefox to show
all of them in the HMC. The bottom of the screen stops at 23 systems.
Scrolling down doesn't help. I'd like to think this is just me, anyone have
any ideas?

Paul Fenstermacher | Sys Admin, Sr | Corporate Systems - POWER Systems
Administration | Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.
663 West Highway 60 | Monett, MO 65708 | 417-235-4114 x177389 |
pfenstermacher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Oberholtzer
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:40 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Poodle patches really "breaking" anything?

I am rapidly moving over to Chrome rather than FireFox. It's too big, too
slow, too buggy, and now becoming really annoying that it does not play in
the sandbox with others very well. When Chrome does not work, usually
Safari does.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul
Fenstermacher
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:16 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Poodle patches really "breaking" anything?

My Firefox just updated yesterday to 34.0.5 and after that I could not
connect to HMC's running 7.7.5 nor could I connect to two different V7000
GUI's. Error message in all cases says





Unable to Connect Securely



Firefox cannot guarantee the safety of your data on THISIPADDRESS because it
uses SSLv3, a broken security protocol.





Paul Fenstermacher | Sys Admin, Sr | Corporate Systems - POWER Systems

Administration | Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.

663 West Highway 60 | Monett, MO 65708 | 417-235-4114 x177389 |

pfenstermacher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx





-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 7:31 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Poodle patches really "breaking" anything?



Apparently the 'lack' of patching is causing us grief. Customers are
updating their web browsers and are unable to attach to our website.

Hoping this is the cure:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21657963





Rob Berendt

--

IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1

Group Dekko

Dept 1600

Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive

Garrett, IN 46738

Ship to: Dock 108

6928N 400E

Kendallville, IN 46755

http://www.dekko.com











From: rob@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxx>

To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 12/09/2014 07:15 AM

Subject: Poodle patches really "breaking" anything?

Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L"
<midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>







Not to feed the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" crowd but are poodle

patches really causing headaches?

http://www.itjungle.com/fhs/fhs120914-story01.html

Granted, it was already broke due to the lax security, but what headaches

have been caused by the patches, if any? Any horror stories? If so, how

did you resolve it? For example:

- I'm running encrypted telnet and it all broke, and what you did to get

around it.

- I'm running Domino x.y.z and I had to ...

- I'm running WAS e.f.g and I had to ...

- I'm running sftp from Acme Coyote and I had to ...

and more of that genre.





Rob Berendt

--

IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1

Group Dekko

Dept 1600

Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive

Garrett, IN 46738

Ship to: Dock 108

6928N 400E

Kendallville, IN 46755

http://www.dekko.com



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