Rob,
The link you referenced pertained to Sametime and some IBM PTFs.
How is this related to Java 13 and 14.
I did download and install 13 and 14 to my "playground" LPAR.
I'm not sure what my next step(s) will be in installing to my R&D LPAR.
I know different products (both IBM and non IBM) are hardcoded to use a specific level of Java
Paul
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 11:07 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: i5 OS upgrade - from V7R1 to V7R2
Does this help build up your confidence?
http://www.stevencpitcher.net/2012/08/java-issues-while-upgrading-sametime.html
Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/24/2014 04:31 PM
Subject: RE: i5 OS upgrade - from V7R1 to V7R2
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Rob,
You hit the nail on the head.
I remember changing this variable to use a different default.
However, with that said, would/could installing 13 and 14 cause something
to break.
QSH Command to see java setup.
java -version
java version "1.6.0"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pap3260sr16fp1-20140706_01(SR16
FP1))
IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, JRE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 OS/400 ppc-32
jvmap3260sr16fp1-20140706_01 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled)
J9VM - 20140626_204542
JIT - r9_20130920_46510ifx7
GC - GA24_Java6_SR16_20140626_1848_B204542)
JCL - 20140704_01
Paul
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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:44 PM
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Subject: RE: i5 OS upgrade - from V7R1 to V7R2
A concern might be will some product automatically start using this newer
version of Java and that cause an issue. Well, what I know about Java
would fit into a thimble but I wonder if there's some environment variable
or some such thing that stores what java engine to use as a default and
what are the ramifications of changing that.
This is what you're looking for, right?
Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
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Date: 10/24/2014 03:16 PM
Subject: RE: i5 OS upgrade - from V7R1 to V7R2
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Could installing 5761JV1, Options 14 and 15, cause an issue with anything
currently using 7561JV1.
I'm always nervous with upgrading/changing JV1.
Paul
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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:32 AM
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Subject: RE: i5 OS upgrade - from V7R1 to V7R2
Yes our 9117-MMA was Power 6 and you're right that your Power 7 should
have less issues.
Installing a PTF should not add additional levels of Java.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1011217
And one vendor (IBM Domino V8.x) searched for level of Java by looking for
a certain 5761-JV1 option. IBM renamed 5761-JV1 to 5770-JV1 in 7.2 thus
killing that version of Domino.
http://wiki.midrange.com/index.php/Main_Page
Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
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Date: 10/17/2014 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: i5 OS upgrade - from V7R1 to V7R2
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Rob,
Thanks for all the tips.
Your 9117-MMA was Power6, correct?
Powere6 had many more issues, Power7 I believe had none.
Java, I had the same issues going from V6R1 to V7R1. Some vendors coded
for the i5 OS level, depending on the OS level they called a different
version of Java. This was hard to test for. V6R1 may have been worse with
end of Classic Java. My V7R1 options are levels of 8,9,11, 12, 13 . Java
Wiki states 14 and 15 are latest, Install PTF Group SF99572 level 15 or
higher. I'm at level 18, why am I am not seeing 14 and 15?
Memo to Users -
1) Has OPEN SSH changed for V7R2? Latest V7R1 version is 4.7p1. This item
is always omitted in the Memo to Users, (V6R1 and V7R1)
2) Any other known changes that may have been omitted from MTU?
You mentioned "start a section in the wiki" Where and how would I do that?
Paul
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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:06 AM
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Subject: Re: i5 OS upgrade - from V7R1 to V7R2
Items that have been a big concern include the levels of WAS supported and
the Java engines supported.
There is not one java engine that shipped with V5R4 that is supported on
7.2. There is one that you could have downloaded for V5R4 that will work
on 7.2. But, like who can download V5R4 stuff anymore? So the fence
straddling vendors are going to have to make a leap as to what OS levels
they are going to support. Those that are actively upgrading and writing
checks. Or those that are dormant and probably even grumble about paying
maintenance.
Often these concerns are alleviated by upgrading the version of software
from your vendor.
Domino required upgrading to version 9 as no versions of Domino 8 are
supported (I tried).
IBM is abandoning their Quickr product and want you to migrate over to
Connections. We're working on that but we're not going to run it on IBM i
anymore. As soon as we uninstall Quickr from that lpar it's going to 7.2.
IBM Sametime is not an upgrade from 8 to 9. It's an uninstall and
reinstall from scratch. It sounds quite daunting, as compared to
something simple - like an SAP installation. :-) But we're thinking
about tackling that beast. This is the reason we've not upgraded our main
ERP lpar. In a period of lunacy we installed Sametime in that same lpar.
Infor's Webtop will have to be upgraded because of the WAS requirement.
You say your hardware should be good. That was a huge show stopper for us
in going from 7.1 to 7.2. Even though a 9117-MMA is supported a vast
majority of the expansion units and cards we were using were not. We were
able to get a couple of guested lpars upgraded as long as they used no
unsupported cards.
All of our show stoppers were covered in the Memo To Users except what
levels of java, WAS, etc each vendor required.
Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/16/2014 04:50 PM
Subject: i5 OS upgrade - from V7R1 to V7R2
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
I've started the planning for our next i5 OS upgrade, V7R1 to V7R2.
Current hardware - P7 8205-E6C-740, 3573 LTO5 HH FC tape library.
From a hardware standpoint, I believe all is good.
From a software standpoint, as usual, some unknowns.
I've reviewed the V7R2 memo to users.
On the surface, I don't see any "gotchas"
I haven't notified our 3rd party products (list is 30+ products) for V7R2
certification.
Any known issues or gotchas for those who have been pioneers?
Paul.
Thank You
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