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Alan,

I responded to your mail, but it actually was a general "complaint",
because i see this "trend" coming up, in general.
It wasn't my intention to chastise you, or anybody else, or even to
criticise your usage of it.

But i wasn't very clear about that.



On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Alan Shore <ashore@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Okay John
Lets turn the heat down somewhat

I never said anything about using SQL to consume XML
The XML request and response is stored in an audit file
I am looking for a way to examine the data to determine which orders have
had a certain data string either in the request XML or the respond XML
In certain situations, I am looking for what was returned by the orders
within an XML tag
Just looking for a tool that would be a "nice to have"
That's all
If you don't like the trend - then don't use it
Because someone else wants to try and push the envelope, then good luck to
that person. Don't chastise them for what they are trying to achieve
If someone sees that this tool is available and wants to use it - then
good luck to THAT person

That MY humble opinion, of course

Alan Shore
E-mail : ASHORE@xxxxxxxx
Phone [O] : (631) 200-5019
Phone [C] : (631) 880-8640
'If you're going through hell, keep going.'
Winston Churchill

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
John E
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:17 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Finding data between XML tags using SQL

I see this trend.... and i don't like it.

Use SQL for all kind of things, just because it's "built into" SQL.
SQL is for data definition and manipulation.

Just because, like many things in IT, SQL is constantly "improved" and
nowadays you can do about "everything" with it, especially compared to RPG,
like all kinds of date checks and manipulations, does not mean you should.

For example, suppose you want an easy way to add work days to a date.
In RPG there is nothing "built-in" for that.
In SQL there is some calendar functionality built-in. Should you use it?

I would - always - prefer to implement it in RPG, in RPGIV that is, but
nicely wrapped up in a procedure in a service program. Maybe initially it's
more time to implement than just add some SQL code and change the member
type to SQLRPGLE (just because of some trivial functionality, which
convolutes the source IMO). Mostly it's quite trivial to implement, IMO.
However, the end result is much more readable: newdate =
AddWorkdaysToDate(olddate).

So, iff you really want to do this with SQL, then put it into a procedure
so the next guy (who maybe is not such an SQL expert to immediately see
what's going on) doesn't have to delve into the SQL books just to find out
what's happening.

Using SQL for these kind of things, like consuming web services for
example, is for one-off things, not for your production code that needs to
be robust and adaptable etc etc. And there will be a time that that little
SQL code snippet which was so handy can't be changed to support changing
needs, and so has to be thrown out as a whole to be replaced with straight
code, which it should have been from the beginning. There is a whole
mechanism that kicks in when you change RPGLE to SQLRPGLE, just to
"quickly" implement some basic functionality.

It's like using the CPYTOIMPF command in production code, what is see
regularly, and then telling the customer "no we can't format the date that
way because CPYTOIMPF doesn't support it". Writing to a CSV file is
trivial. Make a program once, and use it again and again and have all the
flexibility you need now and in the far future. But what i see in practice
is that CPYTOIMPF is used, simply because it "fits" the requirement at that
moment. Until it does not... It's meant for quick fixes, for us command
line jockeys, not to be used in production software.


IMHO, of course











On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Alan Shore <ashore@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

I was hoping to use a "quick" SQL query and there are a multitude of
different formats

Alan Shore
E-mail : ASHORE@xxxxxxxx
Phone [O] : (631) 200-5019
Phone [C] : (631) 880-8640
'If you're going through hell, keep going.'
Winston Churchill

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jon Paris
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:57 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Finding data between XML tags using SQL

Why don't you just use XML-INTO to parse the value in the variable?


On 2014-06-17, at 11:02 AM, Alan Shore <ashore@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Carel
Forgot about that SQL command
Let me ponder this for a while

Alan Shore
E-mail : ASHORE@xxxxxxxx
Phone [O] : (631) 200-5019
Phone [C] : (631) 880-8640
'If you're going through hell, keep going.'
Winston Churchill

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Carel Teijgeler
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:57 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Finding data between XML tags using SQL

You could try the LOCATE function in the WHERE-clause

Regards,
Carel Teijgeler

On 17-6-2014 15:18, Alan Shore wrote:
Hi everyone
Before I forget - we are on V5r4

For order settlements, we use a web service with XML Each
transmission (XML request and XML receipt) is stored in a file

My question is (hopefully it makes sense) Using SQL - how can I
display (via SQL) the data between XML tags (including the tags)
For example - if I supplied the XML tags of for the XML RESPONSE
<range> and </range>

I would want the following displayed

<range>0</range>
Etc.
For all the records
Hope this makes sense
I am having trouble trying to think where to start

As always - all answers gratefully appreciated

Anyone
Alan Shore
E-mail : ASHORE@xxxxxxxx
Phone [O] : (631) 200-5019
Phone [C] : (631) 880-8640
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Winston Churchill


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