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From the logs, MF58517 was only about a minute.
Larry,--
All PTFs applied, 2 IPLs, 30 minutes.
All actually went quite well.
R&D V7R1 LPAR updated with TR8, Latest CUM, and all latest groups.
Paul
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Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 1:19 PM
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Subject: RE: PTF apply philosophies
Larry,
To make a long story short, the PSP may be misleading/confusing.
Simply set all to apply and next IPL, and go for it.
I have found from past experience, that if I apply the immediate PTF ahead of time, the IPL times are significantly shortly.
Too many special instructions in this group, so I think I will pass this time.
Paul
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DrFranken
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 10:41 AM
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Subject: Re: PTF apply philosophies
MF58517 takes a fair bit of apply time, figure 15 to 20 minutes, and it goes on with MF99008. That along causes a second IPL. So I think you'll be doing two no matter what but they are hands off and automatic.
Assuming you're on reasonably current technology here with sufficient disk arms I would expect you'll spend at least an hour here doing applies and IPLs.
- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
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www.iDevCloud.com
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On 6/11/2014 8:55 AM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
I was planning to apply SI52035 immed.--
Requires COREQ of SI53034, which has a COREQ of MF58517, delay at IPL only.
Summarizing, this can't be done immediate which means TR8 and latest CUM will require 2nd IPL to apply.
Am I reading this correctly, or are there alternatives.
Paul
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Of Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:04 PM
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Subject: RE: PTF apply philosophies
I've never read the PSP in this much detail, assumption was that if all PTF set to apply at next IPL , all is good.
Reviewing latest CUM PSP, I found that PTF SI46137 should first be applied, if not, additional 2nd IPL will occur.
SI46137 is SS by SI52035, which is currently in *SAVF status.
If I'm reading this correctly, I should immediately apply SI52035.
Other critical PTFs, SI 43588 SS by SI47010.
Going forward, I guess the PSP should reviewed and followed in detail.
Additional interesting note:
DSPPTFCVR LICPGM(*ALL) SELECT(*NOTAPY) CVRATR(*SPCINST) Any PTF will special instructions can be reviewed.
Also, when PTF are applied permanently not only are the *savf deleted, but cover letters also deleted.
If you need to review a cover letter, no longer easily done, thus a reason not to apply permanently until next OS upgrade.
Any additional thoughts from the group.
Paul
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Of Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 4:30 PM
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Subject: RE: PTF apply philosophies
Both latest CUM and TR8 downloaded, ready to apply.
80 MF, 124 SS1, 1 SC1, 1 JS1, 1 ST1, 1 TC1, 6 WDS, 1 XH2, About 200 total PTFs to review.
I created a little PTF cover letter utility, combines all cover letters into a single PDF.
DSPPTF LICPGM(*ALL) SELECT(*ALL) RLS(*ALL) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) OUTFILE...
CPYF FROMFILE(QGPL/QAPZCOVER) TOFILE(QGPL/QAPZCOVERC) FROMMBR(*ALL)...
CALL PGM(PTFCOVER) /* RPGLE - selects out cover description */ RUNQRY
QRY(PTFCOVSUM) /* Combines PTF and PTCCOVER letter */
Paul
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Of DrFranken
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 12:05 PM
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Subject: Re: PTF apply philosophies
Next CUME is out now: C14143710. I have already loaded and applied to one partition with no known issues at this point.
- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com
On 6/6/2014 11:27 AM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
I forgot to add, next V7R1 CUM is due out on 6/20.--
So do you combine TR8 and next CUM all in one large PTF apply.
Shoot for IPL near end of June.
Time for some serious PTF planning.
Paul
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Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 11:09 AM
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Subject: RE: PTF apply philosophies
Since I originally started this thread, I now have a tape FC issue which needs an IPL for MF58085, SS by MF99008.
Yes, our wonderful MF99008 keeps popping up.
So now the 6/16 IPL for PTF apply, which was to be postponed, now is critical.
Do I try and include TR8 with this?
I probably can get TR8 applied today on R&D, run for 2 weeks.
Paul
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Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:57 AM
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Subject: RE: PTF apply philosophies
Well, you have to understand, MF99008 was the real 'peach'. That already caused us some issues. Those have been resolved. So, that's already been out for quite some time.
In all seriousness, I am downloading the cume and all latest groups, including TR8, to apply to all remaining 7.1 lpars. Production and all. I was going to apply them all the weekend of June 13. Boss wants a slight delay. Only until the P8's get here and do it all at once.
Yee Haw!
Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/06/2014 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: PTF apply philosophies
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Rob,
So you wouldn't run TR8 on R&D for 2 or 3 months, then apply to production?
Paul.
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Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:40 AM
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Subject: RE: PTF apply philosophies
How long would I wait? Until I can get everyone kicked off.
Rob Berendt
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IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600
to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/06/2014 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: PTF apply philosophies
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V7R1 TR8 released today.
How long would you wait till applying to a production LPAR.
Will take an IPL, I'm sure.
Paul
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Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 9:00 AM
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Subject: RE: PTF apply philosophies
They stay there. Hence the recommendation to apply permanently.
You've never taken over maintenance on a machine that's been under
someone
else's care only to find PTF save files from 2.1 and more? I'm surprised.
Rob Berendt
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