Re: Power8 PCI slots

Jim is right that a lot of the stuff is because manufacturers stop building them, 140G drives will be next. The entire industry is blasting forward at what seems like an ever increasing pace. Granted it's nice to use some of that old stuff in the 'Dave Ramsey Years' but for customers we want to come to the platform they won't give a second look when we tell them we're still at PCIe Gen1 and support SCSI disks.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

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On 4/29/2014 2:32 PM, Jim Oberholtzer wrote:

You're not getting the part where IBM and others were saying watch this
space for future announcements where IBM fully expects to be adding
additional hardware to the system. The other reason some gear is withdrawn
is the suppliers quit making them. Case in point the HEA Ethernet adapter.
Great piece of equipment but they could not get them.

Also the move to Gen3 of the PCIe cards is very significant since its
interaction is very different than in the past and therefore much faster.

This is only the first round of announcements on the P8 line.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


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Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Power8 PCI slots

There actually was never a new drawer for Power7, 7+.
Is this correct?
5886, 5877 were all Power6 drawers.

I don't mean to seem negative, but some fairly new gear is becoming boat
anchors, quickly, and it's still under warranty.
We purchased our 8205-E6C in Jan 2012, still under 3 year warranty.
We retired all Power5 gear in Jan 2012, didn't have to, but it wasn't worth
trying to make it work.
Most of the P7 features we have were announced Oct 2011.
The 5913 was why we waited.
I just read that our 8205-E6C was already withdrawn from marketing, eff
01/03/14.
I've never seen the retirement of gear so quickly.

Do I need to upgrade, not at this time.
No performance issues and still have room for growth.
All previous upgrades were done for both reasons, needed performance, and
growth, and system was maxed.

I like most of the all the new Power8 features, but not happy with upgrade
options and discontinuations.

What's beyond Power8 on the roadmap, nothing indicated?
One must really think before about forward direction.

Paul





-----Original Message-----
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DrFranken
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:12 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Power8 PCI slots

OLD! Haven't been sold for a while and NO 3.5" SAS drives have been offered
for a while. They came out with POWER6.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 4/29/2014 7:18 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

yeah, I didn't think 5886's were all that old. We have 5 of them on
just one of our servers. Four fully loaded with HDD's and one with
four SSD's


Rob Berendt

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