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MH PTFs are normally firmware.
Since I use an HMC, and have that control firmware upgrades, I had
forgotten about allowing a service partition be in charge of applying
firmware upgrades.
Try the command DSPFMWSTS. Mine looks like the following:
Display Firmware Status
Service partition . . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
Firmware update policy . . . . . . . . . . : *HMC
Server IPL source . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Temporary
Firmware product ID/release . . . . . . . . : 5733906 V1R2M0
---Server firmware----
Fix PTF
Copy pack ID
*ACTIVE EM350_143 MH00000
*TEMP EM350_143 MH00000
*PERM EM350_126 MH00000
Service partition means does this lpar of IBM i control upgrading the
firmware on the FSP?
Firmware update policy means do I control firmware upgrades with my HMC or
by applying PTFs on a service partition. If you have an HMC then you
really should use the HMC. Yes it may add some steps but to do so
otherwise may mean you may get your firmware to a level that is no longer
supported by your HMC.
Server IPL Source: Much like IBM i has the 'A' side and the 'B' side
firmware has a 'T'emporary and a 'P'ermanent side. Which makes much more
sense. At least to those of us who speak English. But like does A and B
mean anything to a native language only person from China?
I don't find the Firmware product ID/release nearly as useful as the
'Server firmware' columns below.
Many firmware upgrades are not disruptive. I often perform them midweek
while the lpars of IBM i or Linux are running. Early on in the product
they often demanded a dedicated system or were so crippled to be worthless
without an IPL. There are still some which will require an IPL.
Firmware to HMC support:
https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/sas/f/power5cm/supportedcode.html
Rob Berendt
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From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 12/02/2013 05:06 PM
Subject: Re: PTFs, again
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
They are MHxxxxx PTFs. Even with IPL restart type set to *SYS,according
to
the help, firmware should be restarted. Only one partition. This is a
520.
John McKee
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
When it says "SERVER IPL required" that means firmware was updated. Sofile
that means shut down all other partitions (if they exist) and then do a
PWRDWNSYS RESTART(*YES) on this partition. That will then initiate a
'deep IPL' where the server itself will do PTF work.
Chances are the PTFs in question will be MHxxxxx numbers as those apply
to the firmware.
As for all those save files they are not cleared up by perm apply. They
may still be needed for other servers if you use management central to
distribute PTFs for example. If they are temp applied then they may be
needed for SAVSYSINF. You need to clean them up when you determine they
are no longer needed.
- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
www.frankeni.com
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On 12/2/2013 4:44 PM, John McKee wrote:
Thank you for your insight, Rob.
Earlier this morning, I did a DSPPTF to an outfile. A query on that
beenshows:shows
Cover letter only 1
On order only 2
Permanently applied 3,760
Save file only 1
Superseded 5,043
Value of QABNORMSW = 0
hows
A DSPPTF with no parameters shows Server IPL required. Pressing help
CPD35F8. Causw states reason code 1, Program temporary fixes have
rememberapplied for the server firmware portion of the Licensed Internal Code.
DSPPTF LICPGM(5722999) SELECT(*ACTRQD) shows eight PTFs. And, I
But,some of these. All state Permanently applied - IPL. They are all MH
PTFs. And they are 1076, 1073, 1070, 1053, 1007, 1004, 1001, 997
Maybe just another IPL with restart type *FULL clears this all up?
Ithe
don't recognize any CHGIPLA attributes that might need to be changed,other
than retsart type.
Vast majority of the save files are for v5r4m0. I found some ancient
v1r2m0 save files with ANZOBJCNV. Wanted to let PTF process delete
deletingv5r4m0 save files so I would not accidentally confuse things by
startwrong save file manually.
Maybe I can find out when PTFs were perm applied.
John McKee
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:09 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Where, exactly, are you seeing "server IPL required"?
On an individual PTF when looking at 1. General information?
On the list of ptf's when looking at the column "IPL Action"?
Try this:
DSPPTF OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) OUTFILE(QTEMP/DSPPTF)
sql that and delete the ones which are permanently applied. Then
wasyour analysis from there.
Other things which will affect PTF application include if your IPL
GO'abnormal'. WRKSYSVAL QABNORMSW.
Sometimes you may have PTF's that are missing coreqs or prereqs. See
afterlastLICPGM, 50. Display log for messages. You may have to delve into the
joblogs for SCPF, active and past. If it's been too long since your
IPL you may be missing this history. GO CLEANUP will clear it out
Ifthe number of days you tell it to.
Also, look closely at those PTF save files. Are some PRIOR to V5R4?
totheyso, and you failed to apply them permanently before upgrading to V5R4
PTFswill remain there for all eternity. Years ago I started applying all
Thispermanently (along with an extra IPL or two) before upgrading my OS.
helped prevent new ones from being left over. The older ones I had
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>manually delete. I think I even discovered some V2 PTFs.
Oops look at the time. This may be chopped - gotta go.
Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com
From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
it.Date: 12/02/2013 03:52 PM
Subject: PTFs, again
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
I know I asked this before. Just tried to search, but didn't find
thatlooked,Maybe wrong terms. What I used, with Google, was:
perm applied ptfs savf file remains
I know there were a large number of temporary applied PTFs. Just
##SERV#Pand they are all permanent applied now.
DSPPTF still shows "Server IPL required". IPL source is ##MACH#B
And, all the PTF save files are still in QGPL.
I don't know when PTFs were permanently applied. I thought I read
user.the
save files were removed when PTFs were permanently applied.
I do remember changing the IPL attribute for restart type. It is
currently
set to *SYS, and I know I changed it per the suggestion of another
time.Been a while, but I am wondering if the SERV value stated T at the
mailing
This is v5r4m0
I am confused, and it is getting more routine.
John McKee
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