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Rob,

SAN based disk is indeed the wave of the future. On very low end POWER internal disk will continue to make sense for some time but the bigger you are the more likely SAN will enter your future. It has finally caught up and in many cases surpassed iBM i Internal disk capabilities in data spreading, SSD tools, RAID maintenance, hot swap, expandability etc. Plus with remote mirroring and flash copies etc there is a lot to like. As integration improves such as with recent announcements connecting V3700 and V7000 to IBM i Native this is just more proof. Note: No Native IBM i attach on PURE, VIOS is required.

On the performance hit I believe that's really only relevant if the VIOS is owning disk. If it does not own any disk and is merely being the intermediary between IBM i and SAN storage then there does not appear to be a hit. You could make it so by, well, any number of poor decisions in the configuration and build out but not if properly designed.

A few more points:

FLEX: Looked at a lot of this stuff, talked to many, understand the bits and pieces but so far no customer has said "It's right for me, Now."

There are two flavors, Pre-built (PureFlex) and Build your own (Flex System.) These things are pretty complex so I would usually recommend the first one at least be the pre-built variety with everything integrated and configured.

Infrastructure in PURE is the whole nine yards. You get the frame, the cooling, the power, the Ethernet network, the fiber network, the storage (V7000), and a management node which also handles HMC(ish) functions. Just add compute nodes to taste and load it up.

Flex will run X86 and POWER workloads based on the nodes you pick so you can put pretty much anything in there and share the same infrastructure.

Like Blade center when it was new it looks expensive to get into a Flex system. But it's really, well, OK it's true, it's expensive. But that's because what you're getting is a lot. So it's not likely that when replacing that POWER6 520 you'll choose a PureFlex System as it's replacement. But if you have a significant amount of equipment aging out and can plan to replace it all, or are building a new DC or location it can make a lot of sense to look at Flex.

A few things to look out for.

Power, IBM thinks these things need a lot of power, a whole LOT of power. And if they are loaded to the gills then yes they do. But if you're lightly loading it, especially at first you may not need the full power to the Flex. This is important if it appears that adding FLEX to your DC will overload UPS and Generator (and don't forget cooling) but once all the old stuff is gone you'll be back in the green. I've talked to users running the system on less than half the recommended power. Work with your BP in sizing the power connection and the number of power supplied installed. This is very important if you are in a co-location facility like my iInTheCloud.com setup because in those places you pay for the power you have connected NOT the power you use. That can be a huge price at the power level Flex has and remember it's redundant too so at a colo facility you actually pay for both sides!

Fiber switch ports. There is a fiber switch included and licensed for the base management node and the V7000 switch. Be very careful on getting enough licenses for the fiber switch, it's easy to overrun the base and find out things won't connect. Oops!

Large systems. If you are currently in a 570 or 770 or bigger then Flex may not work for you as you are limited to 16 processor cores in a single LPAR. They are POWER7 cores of course so that's not insignificant Power but if you are anywhere close to 16 cores in an LPAR you're likely not going to want to put that in Flex. That may go up in the future of course but it's not announced, not previewed, not hinted at so don't bet your business on that.

Drives in the Flex nodes themselves. You can put a couple in there but doing so limits memory because now you can use only low profile DIMMs. You probably won't want do do that and of course you'll NEVER want any production data on those drives anyway so what would you use them for?

Hope that gives you something to think about.


- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 8/26/2013 9:59 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

We're getting one quoted.
Boss is thinking that the external storage is probably the wave of the
future. We've already some experience on guesting. Guesting on VIOS will
be much different. Hear there's some performance hit on disk that way
versus native.



Rob Berendt


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