RE: CRTDUPOBJ: how to retain the create date and usage info

["Stone, Joel" <Joel.Stone@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Maybe I am all wrong, don't know.  But in Win7, the date shown on Windows Explorer keeps the history.

In OS400, it seems all history is purged with CRTDUPOBJ and/or SAVOBJ/RSTOBJ.

Wouldn't one think that SAVOBJ/RSTOBJ would restore an object back to the state that it was saved?

Seems kind of scary that the restored object is not quite the same.




-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:02 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: CRTDUPOBJ: how to retain the create date and usage info

Nope, try copying and pasting anything in any other OS that I know of...

The create date gets set to the current date.  Last modified stays the same
at least in Win7...

Charles




On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Stone, Joel <Joel.Stone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Not "last changed" date, rather "last used date" and "create date"
> intuitively should be identical when savobj/rstobj or crtdupobj is used to
> dup an object.
>
> I believe that on all other OS's that survived, creating a duplicate means
> just that; an identical instance of that object.  It is frustrating that
> this is not possible on the "i" without MI or API programming.
>
> I am trying to merge a rouge library into our change mgmt system.  There
> are 700 objects in there.  It is important to retain the last-used date so
> I can figure out which objects to import into our production system and
> which ones to retire.
>
> Ditto for create-date (and also for change date).
>
> If these date stamps weren't important then why does every OS treat them
> with importance - except os/400 ?
>
>
> Please suggest some alternatives but the data is too important to drop.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark S Waterbury
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:45 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: CRTDUPOBJ: how to retain the create date and usage info
>
> Hi, again, Joel:
>
> Correction to my earlier reply -- the QLICOBJD API "last changed" key
> only lets you change the object's last changed date and time stamp to
> the current date-time stamp, or not change it at all. So, this may not
> help you.
>
> If you can explain why you think you need this "last changted" date to
> be set the same as the original object, and what exactly you are doing
> with that information, perhaps we can suggest some alternatives.
>
> All the best,
>
> Mark S. Waterbury
>
>  > On 7/18/2013 5:31 PM, Stone, Joel wrote:
> > Thanks for the tip.
> >
> > So I tried SAVOBJ/RSTOBJ.
> >
> > Now I lose the "Last used date" info, which is critical to retain for
> this project.
> > Is it possible to create a copy of an object and retain both the
> CREATE-DATE and the LAST-USED-DATE?
> > I tried SAVOBJ UPDHST(*NO) but this still stepped on the last-used date
> when restored.
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark S Waterbury
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:36 PM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: Re: CRTDUPOBJ: how to retain the create date and usage info
> >
> > Joel:
> >
> > By definition, CRTDUPOBJ creates a new object based on an existing
> > object as a "template". The new object will have today's date and time
> > as the "Create Date" and the current user profile as the object owner.
> >
> > If you want to "clone" a objects from one library to another, preserving
> > all of the attributes, you could do something like this:
> >
> >       CRTSAVF    QTEMP/SAVF
> >       SAVOBJ    OBJ(objectname) LIB(libraryone) DEV(*SAVF)
> > SAVF(QTEMP/SAVF) OBJTYPE(*PAGSEG) UPDHST(*NO)
> >       RSTOBJ    OBJ(objectname) SAVLIB(librarytwo) DEV(*SAVF)
> > SAVF(QTEMP/SAVF) OBJTYPE(*PAGSEG)
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> > Mark S. Waterbury
> >
> >   > On 7/17/2013 3:24 PM, Stone, Joel wrote:
> > > I need to copy objects from one lib to another and retain the create
> date and last date used info.
> > > How can this be accomplished?
> > >
> > > Object type = *pagseg and *ovl, maybe others
> > >
> > > Thanks!
>
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