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Which is basically ENTRY level wages...



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For most I would guess at $40K - $60K - but since I had no intention of
applying I didn't ask.


On 2013-06-14, at 8:15 PM, Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:



Jon,

What's their definition of "affordable" ??? I've seen way too many
companies that want iSeries staff with years of experience at
$10-20/hr...and they complain if you even think above that.

DR2

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On 2013-06-14, at 3:03 PM, Michael Ryan <michaelrtr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think there may be value in teaching
integration techniques along with modern RPG and ILE, but there are
enough
graybeards around to handle the old stuff.

Sorry Michael - in my experience you're wrong.

I've talked to multiple large customers in the past 12 months who are
considering a move away form IBM i because they can't get staff.
Correction
- can't get _affordable_ staff. And a large number of unemployed
graybeards
just want to keep doing same old same old until they retire. These
businesses need to integrate mobile, web, etc. with what they have.
Maintenance is rarely just a fix-it issue - upgrades of existing apps are
always needed.

I have also talked to a number customers who are actively training their
own
newbies - or considering developing such a program.


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com




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