Sorry if this comes across as hostile. It isn't meant to be. My main point is that we perpetuate the myth that the IBMi is outdated when we continue to use outdated tools and outdated methods.
You are correct. I hijacked this thread to make a point that has very little to do with the original question though I was also one of the first to give a straight answer. I apologize if I've offended anyone.
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anderson, Kurt
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:06 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Recommendations for a newcomer?
All development my team does is in relation to batch processing.
Are you saying that shops that solely use keyboard as a means of data entry are archaic? I doubt data entry on keyboard is becoming extinct. Can you cite a source for such a claim? What might be true is that keyboard entry is declining with new technologies available, but that's hardly the same as extinct.
The way you're communicating your opinions comes across as hostile. Calling things dead and asking for concrete evidence and ignoring it when you hear it isn't a discussion. How is calling something dead to people who use it not offensive? And then for people to say that they produce 'new' code only to have you refute them, how is that not offensive?
Seems like this is the second time in a month where someone new to the platform asked a question only to have it derailed by someone crying that the sky is falling in some manner or another. It's really too bad. I'm not asking for everyone to share the same opinion, but at least to discuss differing opinions with professional courtesy to one another.
Or maybe it's me overreacting, and if so I apologize.
-Kurt
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Kimmel
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:32 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Recommendations for a newcomer?
With few exceptions, "batch processing" is a dead horse. Today's systems process transaction at a time directly from whatever capture mechanism is used. Data entry on a keyboard is fast becoming extinct. We grab information in barcodes at a retail checkout or IFR tags in a warehouse. Even those transactions are processed transaction-at-a-time. Proctor and Gamble knows my wife has purchased a can of Folgers before she swipes her credit card at the local Walmart.
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gqcy
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:21 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a newcomer?
Dan,
are you saying that "batch processing" is to be replaced?
or can you provide some examples of where SQL would "be a better batch transaction processor"?
Paul Nelson wrote:
Name a better batch transaction processor than RPG or COBOL, please Dan Kimmel wrote:
SQL
Paul Nelson wrote:
Now go write me a payroll timecard processing program in SQL.
On 5/14/2013 3:08 PM, Dan Kimmel wrote:
Payroll time card processing is not a batch application. It's a user interface transaction...
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