Re: 20 years of experience, versus one year of experience repeated 20 times

[Bradley Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx>]

What you've described is the difference between a "programmer" and a
"coder".

Programmers love what they do, try to better themselves, know when and
where to apply those techniques, etc.

Coders write code, fix code and coast to retirement.  Throw something new
at them and they'll fight about "if it ain't broke" and "well, if you use
xyz then YOU have to support it".

It's the difference when given a task between: "We should be able to do xyz
to solve the problem" vs "Ugh.. then we'll HAVE to do xyz and that will
take a lot of time..."

My .02 adjusted for diabolical and invisible inflation.

Brad
www.bvstools.com


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:38 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Can't believe I've left SQL off the list.  But "a host of other stuff"
> does cover a lot.
>
>
> Rob Berendt
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> From:   "Steve Landess" <sjl_abc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:     midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
> Date:   05/08/2013 11:38 AM
> Subject:        Re: 20 years of experience,     versus one year of
> experience repeated 20 times
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>
> Rob -
>
> I consider myself of the former group [except having 30 years of
> experience], but I have worked with many more of the latter.
>
> I also have Eclipse installed on my laptop, and in my lab I have installed
>
> [and working knowledge of] SQL Server 2008, Oracle 11i, MySQL, Postgre
> SQL,
> and the JDBC drivers necessary for using each of these databases from
> Java.
>
> -sjl
>
>
> Rob wrote:
>
> I recently had a discussion with someone on the difference between someone
> with 20 years of experience, and someone with 1 year of experience,
> repeated 20 times.
> The difference being:
>
> One person has moved from RPG to RPGLE with subprocedures, free format,
> etc.  They have used a number of APIs and could write one from scratch.
> They've used some Scott Klement techniques and could tweak them around.
> They've written some report programs that have went straight to Excel
> without having to convert a spool file or even run through CPYTOIMPF or
> whatnot.  They read up on magazines and actually try some of the
> techniques.  They attend their local user group meetings and have put some
> of what they've learned there into practice.  IOW, they know what the
> speaker is going to talk about and not just what's on the menu for
> tonight.  And a host of other stuff.
>
> The other person has done a bang up job of tweaking ORD500 all these
> years.  And maybe modified a W2 print program just enough to match new
> government regulations.
>
> This discussion came up because we recently had a gentleman retire and
> we're trying to decide between an experienced RPG developer or some fresh
> college grad.  Both have their pros/cons.
>
>
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