Re: PTF apply, DLYALL, brms ralphed.

[CRPence <CRPbottle@xxxxxxxxx>]

  Presumably then, that could be how the "special handling PTFs" are 
"used", to effect the apply irrespective of the INSTYP setting? 
According to the INSPTF doc:

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/cl/insptf.htm
_i Install Program Temporary Fix (INSPTF) i_
"Where allowed to run: All environments (*ALL)
  ...
The Install Program Temporary Fix (INSPTF) command allows the user to 
load and apply PTFs for multiple products with a single command. PTF 
groups will be copied to the system when they do not already exist on 
the system or when the level of the PTF group on the media is higher 
than the level of the PTF group that exists on the system. If 
LICPGM(*ALL) is specified, any _special handling PTFs_ listed in PTF 
groups will be _used_ during the install.
 ..."

  Because Rob experienced ill-effects, it would seem problematic that 
there is no warning in the documentation that the effect of those 
"special handling PTFs" might defeat the *DLYALL specification for the 
Install Type (INSTYP).  Yet arguably, that condition was warned of in 
the Cover Letter.  Hmmm, I suppose someone who was impacted would best 
decide if the INSPTF should have a "Note:" added, warning that what was 
seen in the described scenario might be cause for concern; perhaps 
directing the reader to review the cover letter to see what might be 
applied *IMMMED irrespective of the request to *DLYALL.?.?

Regards, Chuck

On 07 Mar 2013 07:19, Bakutis, Becky wrote:
> This item in the Cumulative PTF Package Installation Instructions
> explained why I saw PTFs apply even though I used the *dlyall
> parameter:
>
> The PTF install processing will automatically pre-apply the following
> PTFs when applicable: 5770SS1-SI46137, 5770SS1-SI39782,
> 5770999-MF56423, 5770999-MF56192, 5770999-MF51908, 5770BR1-SI47935
> and 5770DG1-SI48830.
>
> CRPence on Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:57 PM wrote:
> > <<SNIP>> Aside from LIC PTFs designated "mandatory perm-apply"
> > pre-requisites, and I suppose also "special handling PTFs" in\with a
> > group PTF, I am not sure that there is anything else that should
> > cause the INSPTF feature to actually apply a *IMMED PTF when
> > requesting the *DLYALL install-type for a single invocation of
> > INSPTF.