Re: WebSphere vs. WebSphere Express -- MIDRANGE-L

Mike, do you have software support, if so I would leverage it. If your
running the express versions only then I would think it would be safe to
assume that going with the 8.5 or 8.0 version would probably be ok. I ask
this since I had to do something somewhat like this a couple of months
back, except it was not a migration, just a new install of v8.0 express.
Mine was around using HATS, I was told any functionality is carried forward
so in my situation I lucked out.

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:51 AM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm not a websphere expert but one correction here is that IBM i 6.1
support withdrawal has NOT been announced. V5R4 Support ends in September.

http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/software/i5osschedule.html

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 2/19/2013 11:43 AM, Smith, Mike wrote:

I've recently inherited a couple V6R1 LPARs that I'm trying to get up to

speed on configurations, etc. In doing so, I realize that they are running
V6.1, which is going to roll off support this year so I'm looking into
upgrading to WebSphere V8.5. I've also have been trying to understand the
licensing.

I've been searching for a good explanation between the two and have not

found anything.

So I have an older V5R4 LPAR that when I look at GO LICPGM, I see:
5722E51 *INSTALLED WebSphere Application Server - Express 5.1

As I understand it, this is the WebSphere that came with V5R4. While I

don't use it, it's there and is included with the SWMA I pay for the
machine.

As for the inherited V6R1 LPARs that have :
5733W61 *INSTALLED WebSphere Application Server V6.1 for i5/OS
5733W61 *INSTALLED WebSphere Application Server V6.1 ("Base")

I do not see the E51 product installed.
First question is: did they get rid of the Express version and when I

upgrade V5R4 to V6R1, E51 will become W61?

So, after some searching I found :

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/webservers/appserv/wasfamily/compare.html

I noticed first off a the top under "Optimized for", I see express "Low

cost ready to go solution for smaller scale deployments of dynamic web
applications" and under Application Server, essentially for moderately
sized deployments. When I look through the comparison chart though, I see
they are the same with the exception of "Socket based pricing and "Tool
Edition".. doesn't sound like that tells me what you really get for
standard version.

I'm wonder why someone would not use Express and cough up money for the

Application Server version.

As far as licensing goes, I'm running on an Power 5 550 (three

processors). The V5R4 machine was moved over from an 810. I believe with
both of these model, you licensed software for the whole machine. At that
time, I'm guessing someone decided to put a good chunk of change down for
the Application Server because the Express wasn't going to cut it.

I guess going forward, V7r1 or whatever, thoughts about converting

Application server to Express?

Also, any comments on my WAS upgrade? I started looking at coexistence

of V6R1 and V8R5 but was wondering is most people just upgrade right over
the top? I have four LPARs; Dvlp, Test, QA and Prod for this application.
It might be a lot of extra work to do the coexistence.

Michael Smith
Systems Manager -Technical Support, SAP Basis Administration and

iSeries Support

ITS - Computing Services

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