Re: BRMS - does *CONSOLE automatically result in a restricted system save

[Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Which ever device is the system console, (system value = qconsole) is 
the device it uses, without respect to the connectivity method of the 
console, so in short, yes.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/17/2013 1:37 PM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> Jim, would this work whether it was a lan console/remote 5250 via HMC or on
> the HMC with access to the master console.
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>
> > >  Jeff,
> > >
> > >  Sign off Interactive users does just that.  It does not necessarily
> > >  result in a restricted state.  You can get all of the subsystems to stop
> > >  by using the "Subsystems to process" Option 9 from the control groups
> > >  menu (WRKCTLGBRM) but that will simply stop and optionally start the
> > >  subsystems you put in there.  If you put *ALL in there it claims to take
> > >  it to a restricted state and is intended for restricted state operations
> > >  such as *SAVSYS save.   If you do that remember to set the restart so
> > >  the control group will restart the controlling subsystem when it ends.
> > >  I have not tried that specifically (all my comments are based on V7)
> > >
> > >  SBMJOB(*CONSOLE)  will allow the system into a restricted state as long
> > >  as the console monitor job has been started (Option 20 from the BRMS
> > >  menu).  More importantly it will do it unattended while you sleep.  You
> > >  can also get a restricted state by submitting the back up job to the
> > >  controlling subsystem but I am  not a big fan of that since you will not
> > >  have any access to the console until the job finishes and restarts
> > >  everything.
> > >
> > >  You best option is SBMJOB(*CONSOLE) after starting the console job.
> > >
> > >  Jim Oberholtzer
> > >  Chief Technical Architect
> > >  Agile Technology Architects
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 1/17/2013 9:45 AM, Jeff Crosby wrote:
> > > >  >  What causes restricted state in BRMS?  Is it SBMJOB(*CONSOLE)?  Or is it
> > >  if
> > > >  >  the BRMS control group says "Sign off interactive users . . . . . . .
> > >  *YES?"
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  For example, this statement in a job scheduler:
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  STRBKUBRM CTLGRP(BLAHBLAH) SBMJOB(*CONSOLE)
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  If BRMS control group BLAHBLAH says "Sign off interactive users . . . .
> > >  . .
> > > >  >  . *NO" will restricted state be entered or not?
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  -- Jeff Crosby VP Information Systems UniPro FoodService/Dilgard P.O.
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