Re: Go Save 21 question

[Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, QCTL must end to get a full save.  The only way to get an 
unattended restricted state back up is to use one of the tape management 
systems, BRMS, Robot/Save, or LXI's product to name three.  You need to 
have a monitor job that is capable of running in QCTL while it is 
ended.  You can write your own but it's not for the faint of heart to 
do.  BRMS is inexpensive so it should be considered strongly and it's 
backed by IBM support.   The others work too, and have some feature 
function that BRMS does not have.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 11/13/2012 8:41 AM, Daniel T. Rowan wrote:
> QCTL never gets ended though does it? I have scheduled our nightly backup
> to run in that subsystem.
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Luis Rodriguez<luisro58@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>
> > >  Daniel,
> > >
> > >  (Running V5R3, but the principles, IMHO, should stay the same).
> > >
> > >  The name of the program that is executed with GO SAVE 21 is, IIRC,
> > >  QMNSRBND. It is quite complex and I believe you would be better served by
> > >  just typing 21 (don't press enter) while in the GO SAVE menu and then
> > >  pressing the help key. The help text shows you all the commands that are
> > >  run under a GO SAVE 21 option.
> > >
> > >  I don't know if it can be run with a WRKJOBSCDE (never tried it), but my
> > >  best guess would be*no*, as a GO SAVE 21 implies the ending of
> > >  susbsystems, including, of course, QBATCH and its similars. In a worst case
> > >  scenario, you could just create a small CLP that recreates the GO SAVE 21
> > >  options and just add a delay before it. Run it in your console when leaving
> > >  Friday afternoon.
> > >
> > >  HTH,
> > >
> > >  Luis Rodriguez
> > >  IBM Certified Systems Expert — eServer i5 iSeries
> > >  --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Daniel T. Rowan<danieltrowan@xxxxxxxxx
> > > >  >wrote:
> > >
> > > >  >  Good morning.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  I have three questions. First, what is the name of the program that is
> > > >  >  executed by the option 21? Now that we are on V7R1, I would like to
> > > >  >  retrieve the source and customize it for our shop. My former boss had a
> > > >  >  version that we still use, but he has retired, and I'm not sure we're
> > > >  >  getting everything.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  Second, can this new program be run through WRKJOBSCDE? I am getting
> > >  tired
> > > >  >  of either staying late on Fridays or getting up early on Saturday to do
> > >  my
> > > >  >  full system saves.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  Third, if I can't run this through the scheduler, is there a way to set
> > >  up
> > > >  >  a PC to act as the console and remote into it? We don't have budget money
> > > >  >  for one of those HMC's you guys talk about.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  Thanks
> > > >  >  --