Seems a bit vague, but maybe, like me, you're just really busy.
"most of documentation" - does that include both Memo To Users? Do they
include some examples?
Something's tickling my memory on this but I've been on 7.1 for a couple
of years now so that experience escapes me.
"The only spot I have seen customers have trouble with in a V5R4 to V7
upgrade". Really? Everyone passed ANZOBJCVN on the first try? Wow! I
am sure you meant "the only OTHER spot".:-)
Is this something you can catch by scanning sql monitors for certain
statement execution? Like "left outer join" or some such thing?
How does one budget for this? Or is this an encouragement to contract
with a vendor who's done enough of these conversions to have caught
I'm trying to help people plan for and get to 7.1, hopefully safely. Not
to increase their fear of upgrading from V5R4.
-- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 09/17/2012 01:20 PM Subject: Re: Budgeting to replace V5R4 Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Rob, There's a little gem lost in most of the documentation and that is a change that was made in DB/2 regarding outer joins. The only spot I have seen customers have trouble with in a V5R4 to V7 upgrade is with SQL statements that use certain kinds of joins. There are workarounds but the best solution is to fix the SQL. See the archives of Midrange-L for much more information as well as IBM's web site, although good luck finding much out there..... Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical Architect Agile Technology Architects On 9/17/2012 10:20 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:> Many of you are preparing budgets for next year. I've got no dog inthis
> fight, but you may want to consider adding upgrading from V5R4 to yourhttp://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/upgrade/suptschedule.html
> budget. End of service for V5R4 is end of September of 2013.
> You can get an extension but IBM will REALLY, REALLY rake you over thedelay
> coals financially for it. Besides, all that buys you is one year of
> for a LOT of money.to
> I suggest you read the Memo to Users for both 6.1 and 7.1. Some items
> consider in your budgeting:software
> - Are you current with IBM software subscription?
> - ANZOBJCVN. This may (almost guarantee WILL) affect some vendor
> purchased software. If you're behind on your vendors versions of
> that are supported on 7.1 then there may be some serious costsincluding:
> = Paying up back supportfirst
> = Replacing the vendor if back support is too pricey or if they still
> don't support 7.1, which has been out for 2.5 years now. We replaced a
> few packages that we're dragging their feet on 6.1 versions when 6.1
> came out. IBM gave them a year's notice on ANZOBJCVN prior to 6.1 andwe
> got tired of them milking maintenance for nothing.software.
> = Training on the new version (or replacement) of your vendor
> When we jumped from BPCS 405CD to LX 8.something we put everyone throughcan
> non software specific ERP training and then LX training. (Note: You
> get 405CD to work past V5R4 but it WILL require applying some BMRs.http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/resources/systems_power_ibmi_lotus_releasesupport.pdf
> - Domino:
> - Hardware: Is all your hardware currently supported on somethinghigher
> than V5R4?models
> There are some cards etc which may need to be replaced. Including
> otherwise supported on these releases:http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/upgrade/futurehdwr.html
> - Actually doing your OS upgrades. Some of you contract that out versus--
> doing it in house. IBM or your BP may provide you a quote on that.
> Rob Berendt
> -- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept
> 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108
> 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755http://www.dekko.com