OH gawd...didn't you folks install Brief on your boxes yet?? :)

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dennis Lovelady
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: V5R4 End of Marketing

Wait a minute: There's something other than edlin for word processing??!!?
Oh, you must mean, vi. Yeah, I get that.

Dennis Lovelady
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One can always state that nothing in any vendor's new release justifies
upgrading. Then again, if everyone did so, we'd all be running DOS 1.0
on
our PC's and using edlin as our word processor.


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From: "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 05/27/2011 04:27 PM
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BMR's are patches for bugs, right? Why would I want to do an upgrade if
the
software has been set up to do exactly what I want it to do ("If it
ain't
broke, don't fix it").

I can see paying the ransom in order to have the right to upgrade my
OS/machine, but to upgrade for the sake of upgrading?

Paul Nelson
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:30 PM
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Yes. Definitely. You do have to put on bmr's. You do have to do
upgrades. Otherwise it's like saying "Has Microsoft been diligently
bringing you updates?" and you reply no because you are running DOS 3.1
and they haven't issued you an update in decades.


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From: "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 05/27/2011 02:37 PM
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Has Infor been diligently bringing you new features and functions?

Paul Nelson
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
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I hope Infor holds the line. Doesn't seem fair for them to give it
away
for those of us who diligently paid their maintenance.


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From: "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 05/27/2011 01:26 PM
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I talked to a fellow in the Chicago area yesterday. His company is
using
BPCS, and like many other firms, is heavily modified, and because of
the
outrageous pricing on maintenance, chose to drop the maintenance.

They are currently negotiating with Infor to get what the pieces of the
security component (non observable) they need to upgrade to V6R1. Infor
started with a price of 3.5 million, and has come down to 1.5, and then
has
dug in its heels at $300K.

His alternative is to pay for maintenance on V5R4 at the rate of about
$50K
per year while they find a solution to take them off the platform.

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Carey
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:43 AM
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Subject: RE: V5R4 End of Marketing

I have no special knowledge, but I'd bet in the fall IBM announces end
of support of V5R4 for fall 2012.

I get the feeling IBM is weighing the decision based on the number of
users who could not move to V6R1, which seemed to usually be due to
vendor software issues.

I think the best thing they could do is to announce end of support and
get the last stragglers moving.

Jeff Carey, MSIT, MBA
Senior Technical Support Specialist

SXC Health Solutions, Inc.


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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:53 AM
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http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/0/897/ENUS210-440/ENUS210-
440.PD
F


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From: Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 05/27/2011 11:27 AM
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Pete do you have a link to the announcement?

Charles

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Pete Massiello
<pmassiello-ml@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



IBM i V5R4 has been withdrawn from marketing.


As of today 27th of May 2011, IBM i V5R4 has been withdrawn from
marketing
and will not be available for Upgrades on the website.

However software downloads are still available:

- Under Software Downloads: If the machines entitlements are at V5R4
as
the
highest version release, software products are available under
"withdrawn
products" - In step 2 : select product, check for product
availability

and
select "withdrawn products"

- IBM i/OS V5R4 is still available under "IBM i evaluation, T&B and
NLV
download" function.

If you have any questions or concerns you may contact Customer
Support.
Contact information can be found on the web page via the link
'Contacts'."





Pete Massiello

iTech Solutions

http://www.itechsol.com



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