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On 2/8/11 8:12 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
I really do not think that the S/36, S/34 and their predecessors
qualify as relational database machines simply because they supported
a chain by a key instead of just RRN in RPG.

Do you really think the data below is relational?
A0000100012345Bubba 1313 Mockingbird Lane New York NY12345
A00001001XYZ123Steel Coil ...

<<SNIP>>

The degree to which the data can be considered relational does not correlate directly nor proportionally to the degree to which the DBMS provides relational capabilities.

While those systems may not have provided a RDBMS [e.g. according to rules of Codd], at least the S/36 had the capability to define stored data to appear relational. On the S/36 the IDDU [like DDS on the S/38] provided the capability to define stored data in a very relational manner; i.e. from one scalar entity at each row\column pairing, to further normalization available by having data with a common key across\into other files that were also appropriately described. The Query/36 [aka QRY/36] provided at least INNER JOIN capability to gather the normalized data into a report using the field\column definitions from the IDDU that were previously applied to a flat file.

Regards, Chuck

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