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RE: IBM BP's that used to be ISERIES now migrating to windows ?

Not sure if my company is in the minority, but we have many iSeries systems, many Power systems running I, and we value the platform greatly. I think part of that is the fact that most of our hardware presence is in Europe, the Middle East, Latin America, and Asia. We are bringing in New applications and the preferred platform is the Power running I, not windowz.

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Needles,Stephen J
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:05 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: IBM BP's that used to be ISERIES now migrating to windows ?

It is not only the migration by business and BP's that are moving away from the IBM i platform, it is the academic one.

The average age of our IBM i development staff has got to be approaching 50. The .Net component of our shop's average age is closer to 30. I can't recall the last tech interview I'd done for the IBM i that the candidate was under 40 years.

No schools seem to be teaching the benefits of the IBM i.

With no "young blood", it is just a matter of time and attrition.

Steve Needles

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bradley Stone
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:52 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: IBM BP's that used to be ISERIES now migrating to windows ?

As a software provider for the AS400/System i/iSeries, etc I can say
that out of the few thousand customers I have, most of them are
sticking with it and still upgrading hardware every 3-5 years.

In the past 5 years I can recall 2 or 3 that moved away from the
system to move to Windows/*nix. And the IT staff wasn't happy about
it. :)

I've heard this same story for the past 15 years... I'm not
convinced. We focus on those that make public they leave the
platform. Do we have stats on NEW customers that have never used the
platform before?

Brad
www.bvstools.com

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Mike Wills <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Our payroll vendor at one time was saying that they will have a .Net version of their GUI interface. We found out recently that it is a full migration to 3 windows servers. We aren't sure why the third server. My guess is for batch processing, but who knows. The plus is that they won't charge us to move over. The minus is the up front costs of servers and the 20+ years of RPG-only knowledge base of the person that maintains the application and the modest customizations we have made in the past.

Not switching anytime soon. I have done a bunch of ASP.NET development, but I am still not convinced that .NET should be used for back-end financial business logic.

--
Mike Wills
http://mikewills.info

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On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Alan Campin <alan0307d@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

We are dumping the AS/400 and going to three new applications all based on
SQL Server. We couldn't figure out why the databaase where c*** (No primay
keys, No Ri, etc) but then we found that all three packages used to be
AS/400 packages and instead of redoing the databases they just dumped the
AS/400 databases into SQL server.

That pretty much tell you where everything is going. It is just a matter of
time before it all over.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm not sure if IBM corporation really cares about the platform the way
they
used to, considering the Global Services arm makes a big pile of money
assisting customers to get up and running with non iSeries systems.

As long as the share price is good, Armonk is happy.

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Kingsley
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:18 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: IBM BP's that used to be ISERIES now migrating to windows ?

Does anyone know how IBM is dealing with BP's that at one time designed
apps
etc sold primarily for AS400/ISERIES but are now migrating away from the
platform only to migrate the customer base as well.  Curious to know A) how
much of this is going on and B) is it a trend that is starting to gain
traction and C) and what IBM's stance on something like this might be.  I
just read an article where a municipality had been on AS400 for close to 20
years and now they will be jumping ship to the windows flagship product
that
they have only to be shown a bunch of bells and whistles that they want
that
they could of had several years ago on system i.
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