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Scott,

The basic authentication issue you mentioned sounds like what I was told. I never got a chance to play with it so I don't have any firsthand experience.


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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Klement
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:07 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: PHP without Zend

Hi Rick,

Operations tells me that the way Zend handles authentication doesn't
conform to our corporate security policies. As a result, we can't
install it on our system. I don't think this a battle I can win.

Interesting.. I wonder what this means? Do you mean the fact that you
have to sign up with Zend in order to get a copy of PHP?

Or do you mean the way users are authenticated when they connect to your software? (Which is entirely under your control as programmer, and has little to do with Zend.)

There _was_ an issue using BASIC authentication with Zend Core.
Technically, that was Apache, not Zend... but since Zend packaged it that way, you could blame them, I guess. The issue was that you connected to a proxy of the native Apache, and it would pass the request on to a PASE version of Apache. This authentication scheme violated PCI standards, so many people didn't like it. This was fixed in Zend Server, however... just don't use Zend Core.


I want to try some web stuff with PHP. If we can't install Zend I'd
like to look at alternative ways of doing it.


You can certainly use the open source PHP. With only a few exceptions, Zend's package is just a package of the open source PHP with a bunch of open source add-ons. (There are SOME Zend-specific add-ons, especially when you use the for-pay versions of Zend Server... but they are a small part of the package in the community edition.)

Mainly what Zend has done is save you the work of downloading the packages, getting them all to compile, getting them to interface with Apache, etc, etc.
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