tn5250j what's required on the host side

Greetings, I have downloaded the tn5250j.jar from www.mowyourlawn.com (Thanks) and now I'm stuck.

Configured a connection to my iSeries.
Connect with the client on my PC and I see is a blank screen with a cursor in row 1/column 1 and "X - System" displayed on the bottom left side of the screen.

Do I need to run something on the server side to get this working?

Thank you,
Bob

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1. Re: Thunderbird quote issue? (David Gibbs)
2. Re: Upgrade to 6.1 or jump to 7.1 ? (Pete Helgren)
3. Re: Upgrade to 6.1 or jump to 7.1 ? (Pete Helgren)
4. Re: Can a 5746 internal LTO-4 Tape drive be shared or
movedbetween partitions? (Lukas Beeler)
5. Re: QSH RM (Scott Klement)
6. RE: QSH RM (James Rich)
7. RE: Can a 5746 internal LTO-4 Tape drive be shared or
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message: 1
date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:53:02 -0500
from: David Gibbs <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Thunderbird quote issue?

Luke Gerhardt wrote:

What version of Thunderbird? I can't reproduce that issue at all, but
I'm hovering near the bleeding edge on 'Lanikai/3.1.1pre'. Maybe
there's an option to trim a quoted quote somewhere that's turned on for you?

Guys:

Discussion of tbird & message quoting really belongs in the PCTECH list (http://pctech.l.midrange.com).

Thanks!

david


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message: 2
date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:53:55 -0600
from: Pete Helgren <Pete@xxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Upgrade to 6.1 or jump to 7.1 ?

Luis,

Thanks. Fortunately, there are only two users that need the bloat of i
Access. The rest run tn5250j. I usually upgrade the clients (who need
it) while the i is churning away on it's upgrade so I should be covered
there.

Pete

On 6/3/2010 9:25 AM, Luis Rodriguez wrote:

Pete,

Please be aware that if you are upgrading to Windows 7 IBM i Access V5R4 is
NOT supported. You can run i Access version 7.1 or 6.1 against your V5R4
system. Check this for compatibility issues:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/software/access/windows/supportedos.html

<http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/software/access/windows/supportedos.html>
Regards,
Luis Rodriguez
IBM Certified Systems Expert ? eServer i5 iSeries


On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Pete Helgren<Pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Part of what is driving the question is what to order (looks like 7.1 is
the winner) and the second part is one downtime window. I have a
weekend to get it all taken care of. There is a "bigger picture"
dimension going on as well. We are upgrading the client PC's to Windows
7 (from XP - thanks MS for no upgrade path....) and moving client
documents and email back to the server (rather than storing them on the
client) so what is driving the dasd upgrade is that they run Small
Business Server on an IXA and they need more space. This will give them
a few hundred gig more.

They only have this one 520 and the IXA (with 20 client PC's, half of
which need access to the i). Add a possible move to Open Office from MS
Office and I am guessing the 7.1 upgrade will be the least of my worries!

I need to investigate the firmware levels for the IXA although a scan of
the memo to users didn't turn up any references to IXA.

Should be fun!

Pete


On 6/3/2010 7:55 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

Pete, your intital thread started with migrating all dasd and then

jumping

into the OS upgrade etc. Are you viewing this all as 1 downtime window

to

do all of the work that your going to do. I was just curious as to what
type of time allotments you have set aside to do all of this. Do you

have

another other systems in the mix or just this one system. I would go to

6.1

then jump to 7.1. Do you have Client Access etc.




On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:25 AM,<rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Both of the following:

Finding the latest PSP information

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/rzahc/findinglatestpsp.htm

Installing PTFs and analyzing your system for object conversions (V5R4

to

IBM i 7.1 upgrade)

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/rzahc/rzahcinstallingptfsforconversions.htm

Which I found by opening the 7.1 Infocenter and expanding
IBM i and related software
Installing, upgrading, or deleting IBM i and related software
Upgrading or replacing IBM i and related software
Preparing to upgrade or replace IBM i software

HTH

Rob Berendt
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From: Pete Helgren<Pete@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/02/2010 09:33 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrade to 6.1 or jump to 7.1 ?
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



Ok. Sounds like the best approach is to go straight to 7.1. (My beta
experience was positive as well so this seems pretty safe).

Where do I find the suggested PTF's needed to go to 7.1 from V5R4M0?
Does the memo to users cover that (6.1 and 7.1 I'd guess) or is there
another way to go about it? Looks like they are on cume 09321.

Pete


On 6/2/2010 3:44 PM, Jim Oberholtzer wrote:

I would not have any qualms about going straight to V7. As Pete
Massiello indicated, most of the change was in the 6.1 upgrade anyway.
So far we have not had any issues with V7.

Jim Oberholtzer
CEO/Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects, LLC


On 6/2/2010 1:52 PM, Scott Klement wrote:

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Hi Jim,

Looking at it a slightly different way, why spend all the extra hours
doing two upgrades as opposed to one?

Actually, that's EXACTLY how I _am_ looking at it. I'm a very busy

man,

and sacrificing my weekend (if not two weekends) to do an upgrade is a
very painful proposition for me.

So if I can avoid doing it twice, I definitely want to. But I'm

worried

about exactly what Tommy Holden refers to... I can't afford for my
applications to not work because I decided to be bleeding edge.

So I guess more than anything, my question is whether I can expect to
have major problems from the "new-ness" of 7.1.

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message: 3
date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:57:52 -0600
from: Pete Helgren <Pete@xxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Upgrade to 6.1 or jump to 7.1 ?

Big picture is to move to blades on the next hardware upgrade cycle.
They are cheaper and have a bit more flexibility in this smaller user
environment. Looks like Windows server 2003 is still supported on the
IXA at 7.1 so the only issue will be firmware levels for the x Server.

Pete

On 6/3/2010 9:35 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

IBM is quite specific about IXS vs Power 6 and above at
http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/upgrade/futurehdwr.html
but only pays lip service to IXA
<snip>
The newest IXS (Integrated xSeries Server - #4812/4813 remain as supported
POWER6 options, but additional IXS or IXA will not be orderable on POWER6
systems.
</snip>
Which I translate as you may continue to run IXA on Power 6 hardware but
not order new ones.
Many of the old IXS died. We lost nine and went to blade centers.
Seriously reduced our i footprint. By two towers.


Rob Berendt

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message: 4
date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:56:47 +0200
from: Lukas Beeler <lukas.beeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Can a 5746 internal LTO-4 Tape drive be shared or
movedbetween partitions?

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 17:26, Dan Hogan <Dan.Hogan@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thank you Pete. ?As a follow-up question, I was told that this is only
valid if the CEC (system unit) has no internal disk. ?Is that true. ?It
doesn't seem to make sense if it is true.

This is true - and it makes sense.

It works like this: You can't switch tape drives. The HMC doesn't know
about tape drives - the HMC knows about controllers. If the controller
is attached to a tape drive and several hard disks, switching the
controller to a different partition would switch the disks too.

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message: 5
date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 11:50:01 -0500
from: Scott Klement <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: QSH RM

Hi David,

There are two potential things that could be stopping your program.

1) the fact that QShell prints a message on the display will stop the
program until someone presses ENTER. This is so that you don't miss the
message.

2) if your CL program is configured to treat non-zero exit status from
QShell as an *ESCAPE message (via the QIBM_QSH_CMD_ESCAPE_MSG
environment variable) then QShell will send an *ESCAPE message to your
program, which would stop your program if not caught with a MONMSG.

Based on your symptoms, I'm guessing the former message is the culprit.
Please try coding the following in your CL program:


ADDENVVAR ENVVAR(QIBM_QSH_CMD_OUTPUT) +
VALUE(NONE) +
REPLACE(*YES)

ADDENVVAR ENVVAR(QIBM_QSH_CMD_ESCAPE_MSG) +
VALUE(N) +
REPLACE(*YES)

QSH CMD('rm /myData/*')


The two environment variables (ADDENVVAR lines) change the way that
QShell behaves. The QIBM_QSH_CMD_OUTPUT one tells it not to print any
output on the screen -- therefore, it won't stop and ask you to press
enter. The QIBM_QSH_CMD_ESCAPE_MSG tells it not to send an *ESCAPE
message if the 'rm' command fails (when Unix commands fail, they set
their exit status to non-zero, but if this envvar is set to Y, Qshell
will convert that exit status to an *ESCAPE message sent to your CL)

Please understand that this also means that your program will not detect
any errors. For example, if it fails to delete 'file1' because of
insufficient authority, your CL program will get no notification of that
fact. (This is true of _any_ type of failure, authority is just an
example.)

If you'd rather keep a log of QShell output (rather than discard it) you
could do this:

ADDENVVAR ENVVAR(QIBM_QSH_CMD_OUTPUT) +
VALUE('FILE=/tmp/mylog.txt') +
REPLACE(*YES)

If you do that, your program still won't stop, but, each time it runs,
mylog.txt will be cleared, and the messages from QShell will be written
to it.

If you'd rather it not be cleared (but rather have new messages appended
to the end) you can do this instead:

ADDENVVAR ENVVAR(QIBM_QSH_CMD_OUTPUT) +
VALUE('FILEAPPEND=/tmp/mylog.txt') +
REPLACE(*YES)

Hopefully you get the idea.

Regarding your second question about the strange error message:

rm: 001-2139 The object /myData/test is a directory. No such path or
directory.

I can't explain this. I suspect it's a bug... When I try it myself,
(v5r4) I get this somewhat different message:

rm: 001-2139 The object /home/klemscot/mydata/test is a directory. The
specified descriptor does not reference a socket.


My best guess is that it's a bug. The "object is a directory" message
is correct, but it's adding on spurious information (extra stuff that
doesn't apply) to the end.


On 6/3/2010 5:53 AM, David FOXWELL wrote:

Hi I'm running this command in a CLP :

QSH CMD('RM /myData/*')

This empties /myData ok, but as the directory 'test' exists in myData, the program stops with :

rm: 001-2139 The object /myData/test is a directory. No such path or directory.

I hit enter and everything's ok because I want the files in myData deleted without touching any subdirectories. How can I prevent the program from stopping? What does it mean by<No such path or directory>?

Thanks.

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message: 6
date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:55:14 -0600 (MDT)
from: James Rich <james@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: QSH RM

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, David FOXWELL wrote:

Here's my directory : /myData

inside, I have :

Opt Lien objet Type Attribut Texte
test DIR
file1 STMF
file2 STMF

I run in a clp :
QSH CMD('RM /myData/*')

Afterwards, I have :

Opt Lien objet Type Attribut Texte
test DIR

Which is the desired result.

What I don't want, is for the program issuing the command RM to stop.

'rm -f /myData/*' should do the trick. The '-f' argument means basically,
"ignore any errors".

James Rich

if you want to understand why that is, there are many good books on
the design of operating systems. please pass them along to redmond
when you're done reading them :)
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message: 7
date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:57:47 -0700
from: "Dan Hogan" <Dan.Hogan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Can a 5746 internal LTO-4 Tape drive be shared or
movedbetween partitions?


Hmmm. OK then. All I have to do is figure out which controller to make "desired" as opposed to "required" without affecting the RAID controller talking to the 5886.

Thank you.

Dan...

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 17:26, Dan Hogan
<Dan.Hogan@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thank you Pete. ?As a follow-up question, I was told that

this is only

valid if the CEC (system unit) has no internal disk. ?Is

that true. ?

It doesn't seem to make sense if it is true.

This is true - and it makes sense.

It works like this: You can't switch tape drives. The HMC
doesn't know about tape drives - the HMC knows about
controllers. If the controller is attached to a tape drive
and several hard disks, switching the controller to a
different partition would switch the disks too.

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