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That is true that you can't remove a *PERM. That's why I wait until the next PTF install (or a couple of months running on *TEMP). By then, I'm comfortable that things are running OK and, if a defective PTF was found, it would have been found by someone and fixed.

I also never jump on the PTF releases right away (unless I need something). I like them to "age" a bit before I partake.


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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Adams
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:21 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: How To Permanently Apply PTF's

Roger,

Thanks. But what happens if later for some reason you need to remove a PTF? Rare, perhaps, but it could happen. And if I recall correctly, one cannot remove a permanently applied PTF.

I have heard that it's a good idea to perm apply before release upgrades. Not pressed for disk space right now (64% after downloading the groups and cume).

Jerry C. Adams
IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harman, Roger
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: How To Permanently Apply PTF's

Jerry,

Here is what I use:
APYPTF LICPGM(*ALL) APY(*PERM) DELAYED(*YES) IPLAPY(*YES)

I always apply everything *PERM before doing the next set of groups, hipers, or cume.


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Adams
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:26 AM
To: Midrange-L (midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: How To Permanently Apply PTF's

I have a couple of PTF's that say that some preceding PTF's (which I already have installed) must be permanently applied. I don't recall ever permanently applying a PTF (at least not deliberately). Is it just a matter of running the APYPTF command

Apply Program Temporary Fix (APYPTF)

Type choices, press Enter.

Product . . . . . . . . . . . . LICPGM
Release . . . . . . . . . . . . RLS *ONLY
PTF numbers to select . . . . . SELECT *ALL
+ for more values
PTF numbers to omit . . . . . . OMIT
+ for more values
Extent of change . . . . . . . . APY *TEMP
Delayed PTFs . . . . . . . . . . DELAYED *NO
IPL apply options: IPLAPY
Apply at unattended IPL . . . *YES
Prerequisite lic int code . . *APYPERM
Apply requisite PTFs . . . . . . APYREQ *NO

filling in the PTF numbers in the Select option and changing the Apy option to *Perm?

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IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
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