RE: Change management systems

I'll risk it, Paul. There are (some of us) 60+ MBA's sitting behind a desk programming a System i.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Change management systems

Too many 30 and 40 something MBA's running around. Don't get me started.

:-))

Paul Nelson
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wintermute, Sharon
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Change management systems

Short term profit and long term loss. Seems to be the norm today.

Sharon Wintermute

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:35 AM
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Subject: RE: Change management systems

Pretty much, since the new ownership jacked up the maintenance fees
through
the roof.

I think a bunch of folks who worked there also took a hike.

Paul Nelson
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Change management systems

Has softlanding dropped off the radar for people?

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

David

CMS can be a very general term - we are speaking of software change
management here. There is also something called project change
management, which is different.

I suggest looking at a couple of the product sites.
www.arcadsoftware.com or www.mks.com (David's company) or

www.thenon.net

(See-change - someone recommended it here recently) and look for their
reasons.

The iSeries has a lot of dependencies between object types. Rob
mentioned a change in a PRTF. What impact does a change to a physical
file have - how many logical files and programs need to be recompiled?

What happens when 2 or more developers work on the same source? How do
you find source from an earlier version, in case you made a mistake?

Or

say that you accidentally deleted some source member? All this can
happen, and a CMS can help rescue you from these problems.

It might be enough to do a checkout - checkin process - TAATOOLS has
one, I believe, that works well for one of our customers. (
www.taatools.com)

HTH
Vern

David FOXWELL wrote:

Hi,

As we are looking at the possibility of revamping our homegrown

installation utility, I'd like to know more about CMS. I never even

heard
of

CMS before subscribing to this list. I was wondering what I am

missing. Is

it really that complicated to write a utility that takes care of the
development installation and everything that is impacted by it? How

might
we

benefit from buying a CMS?

Thanks.

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